From what i have heard, from several credible sources, someone on the us women's team tested positive. As of now only the persons family, roommate, and usa swimming know, but im sure it will begin to leak out. Nothing matters though until we get results of the B test.. which could be a few days or even weeks. Not sure when the test was taken, but probably trials. I will try to post more information when I get it, but if anyone could confirm or post what they know, im sure it would be appreciated
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What an enormous letdown for tara kirk...she placed 3rd (2nd actually) by only one one-hundredth of a second. and she won't be going, thanks to hardy, as well as a technicality on selection rules. something needs to be done about the selection process. either speed up the announcing of positive tests, or move back the deadline. with a test for hgh on the horizon, i'm sure this won't be the last time a swimmer loses their ticket to the olympics because of a cheat, unless they figure out a way to address the situation better for 3rdplace swimmers.
So will this fall on the shoulders of Shubert?
Interesting post on SCAQ's Blog:
scaq.blogspot.com/.../jessica-hardy-tested-positive-on-july_24.html
Son of a :censor:!! They had plenty of warning, and chose to do nothing about it. Meanwhile two qualified swimmers who put everything they had into Trials will be denied entry to the games. All because the bureaucrats were too cowardly to face the truth. :mad:
It also makes me wonder if this has anything to do with adding Joyce
I don't think so. They followed the letter of the rules to add Joyce. Torres dropped out of the 100 free and Joyce was next in line. The same thing happened in 2004 when Bryce Hunt was added to the team in the 200 back after Phelps dropped the event.
Fort, I'm sorry you have to deal with an idol's fall. It just seems that too often heroes ultimately let you down. It's why I try to take them with a grain of salt.
I'm not saying you or Geek are wrong to centre around swimming; you know how I feel beyond how I swim or my friends swim; I'm not particularly vested in anyone else's swimming--and very likely nobody is particulalry vested in mine least of all Olympic athletes. I'll give genuine kudos when the opportunities arise but it's impossible to track everyone and I'm not a big hero-worshipper anyhow.
I think one of the most interesting aspects is that she tested positive on the 4th and negative on the 6th. That implies that it is very possible to use these types of drugs without having any positive test results, random out of competition testing being the only obstacle.
I hadn't looked at it that way, good point!
Ok, somebody with information of the body and chemicals explain how apparently she was tested 3 times during the trials and the results were negative-positive-negative
Ok, somebody with information of the body and chemicals explain how apparently she was tested 3 times during the trials and the results were negative-positive-negative
Sure--maybe she used during the trials, just as Landis did in the Tour. It all depends on how quickly the substance is eliminated from the body.
Saw this on FB, www.youtube.com/watch
That was kind of hard to watch and listen to (love Mel Stewart), giving a brief history of past swimmers who were affected by doping. Is it just me or did Mel look like he got a little emotional right at the end?
Stanford women's coach Lea Maurer, who coaches Kirk, said her standout breaststroker could petition the U.S. Olympic Committee and the International Olympic Committee, but said the possibility of being added to the U.S. team "is most unlikely."
Another drawback is that Kirk is in Western Ireland. She and her boyfriend are vacationing on Achill Island in a house "that has no address, just a few distant neighbors and their 12 cats" Kirk wrote in a blog dated July 21. "As the days pass, I fee the burden of my disappointment less and less," she wrote. "It is by no means lighter. Instead, it's as if the exercise of carrying it and not collapsing under its weight has made me stronger . . . I hoped that Ireland could heal me and I left California shortly after I ran away from Trials . . . Missing making the Team this summer has crushed parts of me."
Now that is sad.
It sure is. In fact, I posted a link to the same material and made the same remark earlier today in this very thread. Perhaps my perspective is skewed but it seems to me that this could be the worst part of the whole Hardy doping incident. Read that blog and then put yourself in Tara's shoes...knowing that you actually qualified for the team but will not be given a chance to swim.
This is really conflicting........on one hand I am with Paul Smith....if found guilty....hang her out to dry and lynch anybody that helped her or knew about it. On the other hand I am like George.....too many discrepancies in the information coming out of this.....I'll wait and see what the final verdict is.
