From what i have heard, from several credible sources, someone on the us women's team tested positive. As of now only the persons family, roommate, and usa swimming know, but im sure it will begin to leak out. Nothing matters though until we get results of the B test.. which could be a few days or even weeks. Not sure when the test was taken, but probably trials. I will try to post more information when I get it, but if anyone could confirm or post what they know, im sure it would be appreciated
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As swimming becomes more mainstream and money continues to be offered to those swimming professionally, expect to see more and more PED's being used by people trying to reach those few valuable spots.
Remember...Marion never tested positive. Out of competition testing only works when you know what your testing for and the athlete is not using any masking agents.
So with China now having a new gene doping/stem cell regime & WADA saying its their worst fears come true...is it time to check into past travel schedules of athletes....and is there any possiblity of ever detecting cheating at this level?
Paul you are mistaken. Marion did fail a test for EPO in 2006. See link below:
sports.espn.go.com/.../story
She did not fail a test for "the cream" ala Balco.
Out of competition testing can work - and I don't understand what you meant about not knowing what to test for. The drug testers of course should know what to test for - EVERYTHING.
Out of competition testing should be unannounced and athletes should be required to comply at all times.
None of us knows how prevalent PEDs are. I believe it is very common in certain sports (like cycling) with a long history of expert practitioners. They have been doing it for years and they have doctors (?) who work very hard to develop cheating aids. Track may be similar. We know many of the field athletes (shot put, etc.) have abused steroids. I just haven't seen evidence that PEDs in swimming are as common. I just don't think swimmers are as good at it as cyclists. I don't think the underground exists like it does for other sports.
But who knows.....I certainly have just an opinion and no first hand knowledge.
She was cleared, I made the same mistake however in talking about Bernad Lagat failing the initial test but the "B" sample coming back clean:
www.npr.org/.../story.php
As for testing for EVERYTHING...you missed the point entirely...there was not a test for the clear and the cream because it was "created" and the only reason they found it was an at the time anonymous person sent a syringe with a sample of it. I 100% guarantee that there are drugs being used out there right now that no test can detect...that is why baseline testing year around ala the Garmin-Chiplote team is using is the only answer at the moment.
Lindsay...go back in the thread and click on the link about the recent under cover investigation by a German reporter posing as an American swim coach in China getting offered these treatments for $24k.
My mistake - Marion's B sample was negative.
If you are 100% sure - why don't you anonymously notify the appropriate agencies who and what?
One change in cycling's practice now is that they are allowed to target suspected users. Ricco was a targeted user - and he was of course caught with a brand new EPO variant.
Most top level athletes are "cheating".
Any of the top-level athletes and/or their coaches, friends, etc. on this board care to take this one?
Has anyone here on this message board who does not take performance enhancing drugs ever though of being drug tested?
So if you don't volunteer to be tested you're clean, but if you do volunteer, you're dirty? Not sure I follow the logic here.
A very sad day for swimming. Lucky triathletes don't have this problem.
Yea, triathletes are clean, esp. the german that won hawaii ironman...oh dang...guess that means it's not a clean sport either.
Now of course he may have been talking strictly cycling, but you seriously have to wonder. Even if it was unintentional, all of these athletes take all kinds of supplements and dietary aids to assist their training. They are already ingesting various chemical compounds to enhance their performance, true? Whether or not the substance shows up on the "banned" list, are they not "performance-enhancing drugs"?
Whatever happened to eating a chicken sandwich, drinking a glass of V8, wolfing down a scoop of ice cream, and calling it a night? Go hard on workout days, rest on the off days. Let your body tell you what you need to do, don't chemically trick it into believing it's ready to workout for the 200th day in a row.
The following chemical substances enhance athletic performance and recovery:
Water
Carbohydrate
Fat
Protein
Vitamins
Let's ban them!
