Any estimates on how big Portland Nationals will be??

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I will say 1021
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    From the USMS Rule Book: Largest SC Nationals to date: 1987: Stanford, 2328 1999: Santa Clara, 2060 1993: Santa Clara, 2055 1995: Ft. Lauderdale, 1992 2003: Tempe, 1922 2008: Austin, 1865 Largest LC Nationals to date: 2000: Baltimore, 1380 1996: Ann Arbor, 1176 1992: Federal Way, 1150 2005: Mission Viejo, 1109 1993: Minneapolis, 1085 2004: Savannah, 1084
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    I can tell you for sure there is going to be one there. He is overweight but good looking. Swims with high elbows, he is slower than he used to be. He is criticized because his finish is on his thigh an does not kick enough. When he dives in there is a big kur plunk. His turns will be a pull up style. If he finishes the 100 and able to get out before the next heet starts it will be a surprise. You will see him in the elevator at his hotel with a sign around his neck saying invest in me. I need the money. I will be there.
  • They are still seeded with their age-groups so theoretically you would have slower swimmers in each age-group. Again theoretically if you grouped slower swimmers together regardless of age then you wouldn't have one or two swimmers slowing entire heats (probably more of a factor with 400 IM, 800 Free, and 1500). Here in AZ, many enter no time so they can be in the first heat which forces the slower swimmers into heat one and heat two (rather than just heat one)--thereby spreading out the pain--particularly pleasant when it is 110 degrees out. I have been told that the time difference between seeding the meet only by seed time vs. by age then seed time amounts to about 20 minutes. USMS has looked into it in the past and I was very surprised that it really doesn't make much difference.
  • Just a wild guess, but I think the total will be right around 1127 :). We're trying to get everything in order to post the roster and psych sheets by Monday morning. Gee, where did you get that "guess" from Jim? ;)
  • As of last night 1100 had entered and they were still coming in. So much for the 6th event would be my guess.
  • I think I won, did I win???!!! Skimmed back over the thread and unless I missed someone else's guess, yours truly won! And assuming swimshark was informing the 1100 mark and not submitting a blind guess. Do I get the dispenser with the gumballs?
  • I'm not sure I understand. Non-qualifiers can enter with realistic times now. You don't need to enter with a time under the cut (as long as you're only doing this for three or fewer events). They are still seeded with their age-groups so theoretically you would have slower swimmers in each age-group. Again theoretically if you grouped slower swimmers together regardless of age then you wouldn't have one or two swimmers slowing entire heats (probably more of a factor with 400 IM, 800 Free, and 1500). Here in AZ, many enter no time so they can be in the first heat which forces the slower swimmers into heat one and heat two (rather than just heat one)--thereby spreading out the pain--particularly pleasant when it is 110 degrees out.
  • They are still seeded with their age-groups so theoretically you would have slower swimmers in each age-group. Again theoretically if you grouped slower swimmers together regardless of age then you wouldn't have one or two swimmers slowing entire heats (probably more of a factor with 400 IM, 800 Free, and 1500). OK, got ya. However the long events are already seeded by time rather than age, but even with the shorter events those few seconds here and there add up over the course of a day so it probably would make some difference if all events were seeded like that.
  • 1) Don't let really old people swim the mile (saves hours). 2) Don't let really old people complete the 400 IM after they got disqualified on the first lap of butterfly (that would have saved 20 minutes from Woodland's nationals).:drown: 3) Let nonqualifiers compete and give legitimate times. Then seed the nonqualifiers into heats (still eligible for top 10). This way you wouldn't have one person in every heat sucking the timeline down. Maybe you don't plan on getting really old or you plan on quitting before you are really old, but as one who will be really old sooner than most, I find these comments offensive. Part of what I always take away from Nationals is the amazing feats of the "really old" swimmers who are there while their peers are in nursing homes or no longer among us. It's always inspiring to watch those who can barely walk on land move through the water at whatever pace. Masters swimming is many things to many people with no single component being more important or valuable than another. Offensive? My comments, as always, are mostly sarcastic and not to be taken too seriously. But maybe somebody should just delete this thread as it is getting out of hand. Too each his own, but I am going to swim 'til I die; however, I certainly am not going to force anybody watch me do a 45 minute mile (I will hope to drop to 50s,100s, and 200s by then--but only if Paul Smith dies--otherwise I'm going back up to the 500 and 1000--cuz it's all about the glory for me).:whiteflag:
  • I think I won, did I win???!!! Skimmed back over the thread and unless I missed someone else's guess, yours truly won! And assuming swimshark was informing the 1100 mark and not submitting a blind guess. Do I get the dispenser with the gumballs? Jim's got the right number last I heard but paper ones were still coming in, I think. But so far, you're the winner. images.google.com/imgres