A Disabled Swimmer’s Dream, a Mother’s Fight

Apparently you don't need an education, either. His problems are neurological, not psychiatric. And as the parent of a disabled child myself, I daresay his mother has left no stone unturned when it comes to his medical care. Gull On the subject of disabled children -especially those purportedly afflicted with “autism”, here’s an article that tends to disprove the "crisis" (that we're always hearing about in the media) between the MMR vaccine and autism: www.cdc.gov/.../mmr_autism_factsheet.htm www.vaccinesafety.edu/cc-mmr.htm www.medpagetoday.com/tbindex.cfm The vaccine/autism causation seems to be another label being promoted by psychiatry rather than the result of a scientifically legitimate analysis of the childhood patients. Dolphin 2

I've got a call into Dr. Phil. We should have all the answers shortly.

Here's another of your experts promoting this - Jenny McCarthy, the former Playboy Playmate. You left her out. She's not a medical professional either, like you. Knowing your love of the Google, turn off safe search and see her credentials to speak on the topic. Hey Aquageek McCarthy would look great (in a bikini) -especially on a USMS team, however I'm not sure what her position really is on the subject of autism and vaccines. :dunno: Sounds like it caused her (and her husband) a lot of grief. :violin: Dolphin 2

Gull On the subject of disabled children -especially those purportedly afflicted with “autism”, here’s an article that tends to disprove the "crisis" (that we're always hearing about in the media) between the MMR vaccine and autism: ... The vaccine/autism causation seems to be another label being promoted by psychiatry rather than the result of a scientifically legitimate analysis of the childhood patients. Did you happen to read the references you provided? The third one starts out with: Researchers from the Yokohama Rehabilitation Center in Japan and the Institute of Psychiatry in London evaluated children in Japan during a period when the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine was offered and when it was no longer used to assess any link between the vaccine and cases of autism. The research, published in Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, showed that on a population level there is no link. So your claim that Psychiatrists are promoting this theory is wrong according to the references you provided, since they show that a study done by Psychiatrists showed that there is no link. I don't know why we bother. Your posts are more and more "out there" every day.

The MMR vaccine protects children against dangerous, even deadly, diseases. Because signs of autism may appear at around the same time children receive the MMR vaccine, some parents may worry that the vaccine causes autism. Carefully performed scientific studies have found no relationship between MMR vaccine and autism. CDC continues to recommend two doses of MMR vaccine for all children. FYI the CDC is part of the very same medical profession that, according to you, is in a "sorry state."

McCarthy and her MMR/Autism comments have been the subject of Dr. Dean Edell's criticism for some time now. I won't go into all of his reasoning, although there is plenty of sound research on his side. Suffice to say, Jenny knows not what she is talking about.

When it comes to accepting any physician's diagnosis (especially one involving the claim of mental illnesses such as autism in children), people need to understand the facts and not rely on just what they read in the tabloid media. :doh: Unfortunately, the U.S. adult population is not scientifically literate and they are predisposed to swallow very piece of junk science hook, line, and sinker. As an example, here’s a little True or False quiz about the simple issues about energy and the environment: The U.S. should not build any more nuclear power plants because there’s no way to dispose of the radioactive waste. Plug-in electric cars will eliminate the need for petroleum based fuels. The U.S. can eliminate its dependence on fossil fuels by running cars and trucks on ethanol. Carbon dioxide is the largest contributor to greenhouse gases in the earth’s atmosphere. Electro magnetic fields from power lines can cause childhood leukemia. (Try to answer these questions without looking up the answers on the internet.) Although not explicitly related to medical/health issues, your score on this simple quiz may indicate your level of vulnerability to being the victim of an incompetent doctor's opinion. Dolphin 2

Dolphin 2.......as Bugs Bunny would say...."What a maroon! What an ignoranimous!" Autism is a physical condition linked to abnormal biology and chemistry in the brain. The exact causes of these abnormalities remain unknown, but this is a very active area of research. There are probably a combination of factors that lead to autism.

By the way Dolphin 2...... You're incredible lack of knowledge on any of these subjects just shows your youth, inexperience and total lack of intelligence by believing the very things that you tell people not to believe. You need to man up and admit that you are in over your head in this Forum!!!! Since when does testifying as a "Expert Witness" make you an expert? Where are the credentials? You put yourself out there......now back up what you say.

I have absolutely no qualifications on these topics, zero, zippo. I don't know if what you say is right, wrong, or otherwise. I do know you have a history of making assertions, often very technical or requiring significant education, that ultimately are either wrong or totally unsupported. Also, that you bring up toilets, energy issues, autism, mental health on a swim forum is ridiculous. At least when you show your behinny on swim suits you are sticking to swimming. Hey Aquageek Pardon me for making this observation about your latest reply, but the portion of your quotation that I have highlighted in red is a blatant example of a self contradictory statement. :shakeshead: It reminds me of the saying "The emperor has no clothes". :bolt: This thread is getting as worn out as an LZR that's been through 20 swims and it's a sure bet that the USMS webmaster is thinking "ENOUGH OF THIS C_ _ _ ALREADY!!!". :rant3: So this will be my last comment (on this particular subject at least) and I wish everyone happy swimming. :whiteflag: :whiteflag: :whiteflag: Dolphin 2