Where shall I live.

We love our drunken Politicians. We even voted him back in after he was caught DUI in Hawaii. In Canada DUI is a criminal offence but in the USA a misdemeanor. If he was convicted in Canada he would not have been allowed to run.

Don't let an :mooning: of a polititian put you off a particular city. Here in Alberta, we had a premier for many years who was a real embarrassment. People kept voting him in because they wanted the party he was affiliated with, not him. An cringe-inducing mayor doesn't necessarily reflect the attitudes of the majority of citizens.

I was thinking of Spertus but I don't really want to live in Illinois any longer/ I've taken the U of I Chicago Certificate. Some of it was wonderful some absolutely terrible. Donors forum's limitation about not having a degree is a true stopper. I don't understand why they didn't open the U of I Chicago into a degreed program. The on line program through U of I Springfield which begins this fall looks interesting until you realize it is basically Eastern's program online. I don't want a program that is limited to social service agencies. I've worked in everything from the continuing ed at the Smithsonian to children's museums to aid service organizations to Tuberculoses service where we went out to look for homeless Vets with the disease. I am really interested in looking at how people outside of the field see nonprofit organizations and how they choose which to support and/or use. UIPUI Center on Philanthropy is really wonderful. But Indy isn't much different than where i live now, only bigger and a better masters swimming program. The major problem with Northwestern is it is extremely expensive. Also, one of my coworkers from the Smithsonian went there. She is conservative and loved it. A childhood friend went there for undergrad and left before she finished MBA degrees with nonprofit attached are sometimes developed so that the nonprofit interested student is sometimes looked down on by the other students. The above mentioned idea is why ASU looks so good. It has 2 different ways to go. One is a MPA. And the other is MNpS through one of the centers that does nonprofit research. I think there must be some type of research center connected to the degree to make it really stand out to me. But they are very unresponsive to my questions. Rutgers offers an international look at nonprofit organizations that is really wonderful. I personally would like to end my "career" working with organizations dedicated to removing land minds and stop their production. or with one that is working against the military build-up of the island nations of southeast Pacific and Indian Ocean. I've always liked Delaware when I would be driving through it to go see the Cubs in Phillie or New York when I lived in DC. We once stayed in Dover for two days. I really miss living in DC. I lived there for 10 years. It destroyed my lungs. The entire bay area is so great but I don't want to go through the problem again. Thanks. I really appreciate the comments. They add much to my decision making Craig

This is an interesting question. One theory holds that going to school in a crummy environment helps you put on blinders, focus maximally on the schoolwork, and get out of Dodge as soon as possible. Chicago has an exceptional center called the Donors Forum that offers workshops in fundraising and nonprofit management. It is not a degree-granting institution but a remarkable institution to aid both donors and recipients of funds; any org in Chicago that begins a capital campaign goes first to the Donors Forum and follows the blueprint to a T. There are, partly as a consequence, several large development advisory firms that consult to nonprofits (e.g., Campbell and Co.). Business schools such as Northwestern's have (I believe) a nonprofit management track. Northwestern is sometimes rated above U Chicago and its 43 recipients of Prize in Business named in honor of Nobel. Also in Chicago, the Spertus Institute recently established a graduate degree program in nonprofit something. Indiana University has a Center for Philanthropy; might that be on the IUPUI campus? Cleveland is IMO an underrated city with good institutions. Nonprofit management can become quite specific, with hospital management differing from, e.g., management of a natural history museum or a symphony orchestra or a school. Sometimes the program might want students to do an internship, so having resources right there in the city would be advantageous. Good luck! Both in making the decision and in the graduate program. VB

U Delaware. It has a wonderful international section to its nonprofit management course. Not may responses about it. also what abbout Rutgers? this is new to me and I have't really explored it. I grew up fairly close to Rutgers in NJ. It's a good school, but it's in New Jersey - fuhgeddaboutit unless you can handle the NJ mindset. (Example: You say "Excuse me, but is the 'Resolving Interpersonal Conflicts' course full this semester?" The response, in the local dialect is: "Yeah, you got a problem with that?" I actually LOVE going back to NJ because I get tired of the whole Pennsylvania repressed, passive-aggressive attitude. I also slip back in to my NJ accent. My wife, originally from western PA, looks on it as akin to being dropped off in Iraq without a weapon.) Of course, the good swimming news about Rutgers is that you have easy access to the Jersey shore and NYC and Connecticut open water races. Most people I've known who went to U Delaware liked it and then got the h@ll out of Delaware once they graduated. It has reasonable access to open water races in NJ shore and Maryland. I still say "PENN STATE." -LBJ

I was told the Police in Delaware shoot first and ask questions later.

All Albertan politicians are embarrassing. Don't let an :mooning: of a polititian put you off a particular city. Here in Alberta, we had a premier for many years who was a real embarrassment. People kept voting him in because they wanted the party he was affiliated with, not him. An cringe-inducing mayor doesn't necessarily reflect the attitudes of the majority of citizens.

Hi - I am thinking of moving to DC, and wonder how it destroyed your lungs? That would pretty effectively rule out a longish stay for me. The international flavor to your thinking brought to mind Geneva, which has headquarters for many interesting international orgs, such as Medecins sans Frontiers and the UN. The Council on Foundations Web site lists interesting jobs with such orgs. U of I Chicago is still in the long process of building its graduate programs and has experienced major disruptive events over the past few years. High-maintenance profs and deans coming to great fanfare and leaving shortly thereafter to less. Thanks for any info on DC problems. VB

Washington DC has weird weather. Systems get stuck there and traps the car pollution. I still love it and think of it as my adult hometown. You have to give them a lot of credit because they have managed to really make the neighborhood change. U of I Chicago has a new President. She used to be the Dean for a Social Worker school some where like Michigan. It is amazing how expensive the schools in Chicago are. Spertus is more expensive than is Harvard. I am beginning to that most of them think way too much of themselves. How can any class be worth more than $4,000? I had a really good friend inDc whose wife worked for Medicin Sans Pays. i have another friend who lives in Geneva and works for UNESCO.

Penn State has no program. That is a reason it isn't on the list. I wonder if "the go to some place with a bad environment" is why so many come here to the U of I. Do you know, I think, that there is only 1 female African American in the entire graduate Engineering School? U of I has institutionalized racism so deeply into its structure it will never get rid of it. I can't believe that people still believe humans should be objectified. I wonder if a school called itself the Fighting Rapist (go Bobby Knight. I won't go anywhere where he has gone as a student or taught) or the Fighting Irish (oh sorry they do), how people would think of that. We objectify only what fits our needs. It is still racism. I went to a college that had a Indian funny name as its mascot. I am very proud we got rid of it. Mascots make going certain places very hard.