BYU Swim Camp - No racers (briefs) allowed!

I've been giggling about this all morning! Many of the young swimmers from my pool are attending the BYU swim camps starting this week. One of the young guys who always wears brief (racer) style swim suits told me that he isn't allowed to where them at the camp. I pulled up the info on the camp and the info packet does say "no Speedos or bikini briefs are allowed for male participants". I'm sorry, but jammers are no less revealing than briefs! If anything they are more so - in my opinion. I can understand a modest dress code at BYU, but swimmers are so use to seeing each other in these types of suits. I would love to know the thinking behind this dress code? :lmao:
  • In what defintion of the word 'Mechanical' are you using this word? Pertaining to, governed by, or in accordance with, mechanics, or the laws of motion; pertaining to the quantitative relations of force and matter, as distinguished from mental, vital, chemical, etc.; as, mechanical principles; a mechanical theory; mechanical deposits. 2. Of or pertaining to a machine or to machinery or tools; made or formed by a machine or with tools; as, mechanical precision; mechanical products. We have also divers mechanical arts. --Bacon. 3. Done as if by a machine; uninfluenced by will or emotion; proceeding automatically, or by habit, without special intention or reflection; as, mechanical singing; mechanical verses; mechanical service. 4. Made and operated by interaction of forces without a directing intelligence; as, a mechanical universe. 5. Obtained by trial, by measurements, etc.; approximate; empirical. See the 2d Note under Geometric. I'm sorry, but none of those definitions apply to a swim suit. Unless you are referring to a diving suit, such as this one? en.wikipedia.org/.../Atmospheric_diving_suit But I have yet to see that worn in a swimming competition. I am continually amazed at your prolific use of glittering generalities and vauge sweeping statements. You definately have a skill. And to repeat what others have asked. What's it to you? You don't compete, so you are not being 'cheated' by others who choose to wear tech suits, you're not being harmed economically (unless there is a hidden link between swim suits and elevators that I don't see) or some rich kid wearing a tech suit has beaten one of your children out for a scholarship, resources that are vital to the human race are not being diverted to swim suit R&D and manufacture. So again, WHAT'S THE BIG FREAKIN DEAL??? Ohhhhhhhhhhh, I think I get it now. You just love to argue endlessly about things that do not directly affect you. You're a Troll. Plain and simple. It's now much clearer. Paul (Owner of a $58.00 Speedo Fast Skin 1 bought from Ebay) Crankier or crankiest?
  • Hey Pwolf66 Your quote: “You're a Troll. Plain and simple.” You’ve got that right!!! :banana: To quote a Forestry Service friend 'Where there's smoke, there's probably an idiot with matches' But still, that doesn't answer the fundamental question, what EXACTLY do you get out of harping on the tech suit 'craze'? I'm sure that this question, among many, many, many others that have been posed to you directly, will also go unanswered. Put it simply: Je suis finis avec vous Paul
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    It's almost like shooting fish in a barrel when you make another uneducated statement like the one above. If you don't think the materials, innovation (like it or not), engineering and investment in these are technology, well then you don't really understand technology. Then again, you don't swim competitively and have never been in one of these suits in the water. Hey Aquageek The suit makers “research” has already been known for over 30 years and it’s no revelation that any type of body compression suit (or other items such as foot or hand fins) can make a any person a faster swimmer. :snore: Although the actual design and manufacturing equipment used to produce these suits (such as computer aided drafting, robotic cutting, and laser fabric bonding) is a technology itself, the end product is just another form of garment and its final application to swimming does not constitute a technological innovation. :snore: In fact, Toto of Japan produces toilets in a technologically advanced factory, however that in itself doesn’t make their toilets a new form of technology (and people aren't silly enough to run out and spend over $500 on one of them either!!!). :lmao: However, the suit makers main investment has mostly been in giving FINA a load of $$$ in exchange for relaxing (if not virtually dumping) the rules regarding mechanized swimming enhancements. If you don’t believe this is true, what was the motivation for FINA to change the rules (that were in place for decades) from a non-mechanized to a mechanized approach? :notworking: As the old saying goes "Where there's smoke, there's fire". :agree: Dolphin 2
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    Ohhhhhhhhhhh, I think I get it now. You just love to argue endlessly about things that do not directly affect you. Yeah. Dolphin 2, I'm not a fan of tech suits (even though I've been known to wear them), but your arguments are tactless and pointless.
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    Hey Pwolf66 Your quote: “You're a Troll. Plain and simple.” You’ve got that right!!! :banana: There’s an old saying back in the plains states (where they have some really severe thunderstorms): “For every bolt of lightning, there’s something that invited the strike”. And at MAD Magazine, there’s also a saying “For every troll, there’s a subject that invited the ridicule”. :joker: Since the tech suit craze broke out, the once sacred USMS board has now become a very fertile breeding ground for trolls and I’m just waiting for the next new development from Speedo, Tyr, Nike, etc. -and another opportunity for me to make a big stink!!! :argue: Dolphin 2
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    -and another opportunity for me to make a big stink!!! :argue: Dolphin 2 Just exit the pool first...ktxbai! :cool:
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    In fact, Toto of Japan produces toilets in a technologically advanced factory, however that in itself doesn’t make their toilets a new form of technology (and people aren't silly enough to run out and spend over $500 on one of them either!!!). :lmao: From: en.wikipedia.org/.../Toilets_in_Japan The TOTO product Washlet Zoe is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's most sophisticated toilet with seven functions. However, as the model was introduced in 1997, it is now likely to be inferior to the latest model by Toto Neorest. The idea for the washlet came from abroad, and the first toilet seat with integrated bidet was produced outside of Japan in 1964. The age of the high-tech toilet in Japan started in 1980 with the introduction of the Washlet G Series by TOTO, and since then the product name washlet has been used to refer to all types of Japanese high-tech toilets. As of 2002, almost half of all private homes in Japan have such a toilet, exceeding the number of households with a personal computer. While the toilet looks like a Western-style toilet at first glance, there are a number of additional features, such as blow dryer, seat heating, massage options, water jet adjustments, automatic lid opening, flushing after use, wireless control panels, heating and air conditioning for the room, et cetera, included either as part of the toilet or in the seat. These features can be accessed by a control panel that is either attached to one side of the seat or on a wall nearby, often transmitting the commands wirelessly to the toilet seat.
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    I stopped reading too soon. From the same Wikipedia page: Other features may include a heated seat, which may be adjustable from 30°C to 40°C; an automatic lid equipped with a proximity sensor, which opens and closes based on the location of the user. Some even play music to relax the user's sphincter (some Inax toilets, for example, play the first few tunes of Op. 62 Nr. 6 Frühlingslied by Felix Mendelssohn). Other features are automatic flushing, automatic air deodorizing, and a germ-resistant surface. Some models specially designed for the elderly may include arm rests and devices that help the user to stand up after use. A soft close feature slows the toilet lid down while closing so the lid does not slam onto the seat, or in some models, the toilet lid will close automatically a certain time after flushing. The most recent introduction is the ozone deodorant system that can quickly eliminate the smells. Also, the latest models store the times when the toilet is used and have a power saving mode that warms the toilet seat only during times when the toilet is likely to be used based on historic usage patterns. Some toilets also glow in the dark or may even have air conditioning below the rim for hot summer days. Another recent innovation is intelligent sensors that detect someone standing in front of the toilet and initiate an automatic raising of the lid (if someone is facing the toilet) or the lid and seat together (if the person is facing away from the toilet).
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    From: en.wikipedia.org/.../Toilets_in_Japan Hey Jayhawk You aren't suggesting that Speedo, Tyr, Nike, etc. incorporate all of those features into a tech suit are you??? :joker: Dolphin 2