I'm not sure which suit is better
TYR or LZR
swimmers have done very fast times in both
more records were broken with swimmers wearing LZR's
Ande,
i wore the fspro kneeskin at ynats this week and dropped alot of time, considering i haven't raced in 4 years or trained much 400-200im or 200 br in practice. for the 100 *** i wore the tracer lite tank and believe me girls, you might want to wet down the suit if you do a track start.:laugh2:
btw, swimming the 200br after 1 hour of 400 im was a mistake.:doh: i had sooo much lactic acid build up in my thighs, but hey this one was for fun, no expectations.
Maybe somebody will also sue FINA and Speedo about the rule to have all suits available for all competitors.
This isn't an actual rule, is it? Or are you arguing for equitable treatment?
How are they complying with the rule ?
I think you're absolutely right. They aren't complying with the rule. The rule doesn't say "available for all competitors at the Olympic Games" or "all competitors at World Championships," it says all competitors.
Here is the FINA rule from the FINA website:
GR 5.6 The manufacturers must ensure that the approved new swimsuit will be available for all competitors.
Here is the e-mail I sent to them:
I pre-ordered a LZR racer (see copy of order confirmation below), it
said that the suit will be available on July 30th - (now it says "LZR
RACER will be available for delivery on or about September 30, 2008,
just in time for the Beijing Olympics. " on the website - which can not
be correct, because the Olympics start earlier than that.)
I was hoping to make an Olympic Trials Cut PRIOR on June 5/6 - Is there
any way to receive the suit before that date. I swim unattached, so I
don't belong to any sponsored team.
Thank you for any help you can provide -
How are they complying with the rule ?
Nice email!
I wonder how the rule will be interpreted though? There might be an element of reasonableness and reasonable efforts implied? Perhaps they can argue that they could not anticipate demand based on prior suit launches? The rule's pretty clear though -- "must" and "will."
Do FINA rules apply across the board to all meets? (Don't know much about FINA.)
Maybe somebody will also sue FINA and Speedo about the rule to have all suits available for all competitors. Here is the response I got from Speedo about the LZR:
"Thank you for shopping with SpeedoUSA.com.
We apologize for the extended delay in the shipping of the LZR Racer.
The correct date of shipping is now September 30, 2008. We are unable to
ship these prior to this date. Again, we apologize for the
inconvenience."
I asked them to ship me the suit, so I could make Olympic Trials cuts (which I can't - but that's not the point).
Here is the FINA rule from the FINA website:
GR 5.6 The manufacturers must ensure that the approved new swimsuit will be available for all competitors.
Here is the e-mail I sent to them:
I pre-ordered a LZR racer (see copy of order confirmation below), it
said that the suit will be available on July 30th - (now it says "LZR
RACER will be available for delivery on or about September 30, 2008,
just in time for the Beijing Olympics. " on the website - which can not
be correct, because the Olympics start earlier than that.)
I was hoping to make an Olympic Trials Cut PRIOR on June 5/6 - Is there
any way to receive the suit before that date. I swim unattached, so I
don't belong to any sponsored team.
Thank you for any help you can provide -
How are they complying with the rule ?
Here is the FINA rule from the FINA website:
GR 5.6 The manufacturers must ensure that the approved new swimsuit will be available for all competitors.
Here is the e-mail I sent to them:
I pre-ordered a LZR racer (see copy of order confirmation below), it said that the suit will be available on July 30th - (now it says "LZR RACER will be available for delivery on or about September 30, 2008, just in time for the Beijing Olympics. " on the website - which can not be correct, because the Olympics start earlier than that.) I was hoping to make an Olympic Trials Cut PRIOR on June 5/6 - Is there any way to receive the suit before that date. I swim unattached, so I don't belong to any sponsored team. Thank you for any help you can provide -
How are they complying with the rule ?
Ehoch - I'm not an expert on FINA rules, but look at the statements at the top of the General Rules section (the bold type emphasis is mine):
www.fina.org/.../index.php
These General Rules are basic regulations for FINA competitions in all kinds of Swimming, Open Water Swimming, Diving, Water Polo, Synchronised Swimming, and Masters Competitions as well as for uniform regulations for the development of competition facilities.
In these Rules, competitors shall include swimmers, open water swimmers, divers, water polo players, synchronised swimmers, or masters swimmers, either male or female.
FINA recognises that these Rules may be adjusted for competitions within a given Federation but recommends that all Members adhere to these Rules as closely as possible.
An example of a "federation" would be United States Swimming. So it sounds like USA-S wouldn't have to follow rule GR 5.6 if it didn't want to.
Well - I am not going to sue anybody, but I still don't think this is fair. A company should not be able to say - this suits is 2% better than anything else - and then not make it available to everybody.
They are getting around this by having "stands" at the big US meets where you can borrow an LZR (not sure, but I am guessing TYR is doing the same).
I am guessing they will not come to USMS meets - lol
