As I crawled back into the pool today fat and out of shape, I wondered: Don't sprinters need some minimal aerobic work? I see that Ande is doing none whatsoever and Paul advises not "fighting fat" in the pool. I do a lot of race pace training and cross training. But still, is just a little aerobic work called for? I can tell I don't need any for 50s, but my 100s could use a little something. I don't think I have the substantial swimming aerobic base that people like Ande have because I was out of the pool for so many years .. So I'm either taking my 100s out too slow for fear of dying or actually dying. Does aerobic work help counter this? Or do I need more lactate work such as doing 100s with huge amounts of rest?
Chris, I agree about trying to compliment vs. reproduce. Also, I really want to strengthen the opposing muscle groups for swimming...overdeveloped muscle groups like chest/peck dominate vs. some of the smaller groups of back muscles....one of the reason swimmers can have that very slouched look..and another great reason to take yoga.
Also, after adapting some of the weight routine that the U of A & ASU groups utilize i have to admit I've gotten a LOT stronger. Old is new if you will, lots of Olympic style dead lifts, clean & jerk, squats....heavy weights low reps...working on explosiveness.
This must be a guy thing. Just reading the words "dead lift" makes me shudder.
Aside from yoga, how do you strengthen the small back muscles? I do some rows and scapular stuff, but what else? I often have complaining rhomboid and teres muscles.
This must be a guy thing. Just reading the words "dead lift" makes me shudder.
And that is such a typical girl response. :thhbbb:
What? grrrrrrls can't deadlift or squat? What bunk.
Check out this site for proof that they can.
http://www.stumptuous.com/
Those 2 movements are THE best 2 exercises for overall strength training that exist. And can be done by ANYONE in decent physical health. No need to put 22 thousand pounds on the bar. Just using the bar itself will give you a great total body workout.
Paul
This must be a guy thing. Just reading the words "dead lift" makes me shudder.
Aside from yoga, how do you strengthen the small back muscles? I do some rows and scapular stuff, but what else? I often have complaining rhomboid and teres muscles.
Fort...Laura actually did the same routine and you saw the results she had in Austin. The gals at both Universities are way into the program because it gets results...."power lifting" is a bit misleading in my case however because I'm old, tired and can't lift as much as my wife. One other benefit...lifting heavy w/fewer reps vs. lifting light with high reps burns more calories and contrary to popular belief does not "bulk" you up.
Fort...Laura actually did the same routine and you saw the results she had in Austin. The gals at both Universities are way into the program because it gets results...."power lifting" is a bit misleading in my case however because I'm old, tired and can't lift as much as my wife. One other benefit...lifting heavy w/fewer reps vs. lifting light with high reps burns more calories and contrary to popular belief does not "bulk" you up.
I lift weights, dudes!! I've got guns. I'm just scared of lifting weights overhead or doing pull ups or chin ups because of my shoulders. I can squat just fine. :thhbbb: It's those sun salutations I'm skipping out on.
Laura did look pretty buff. Although AJ Block really sets the buff bar high. Good lord ... she looks like a sprinter even though she isn't.
I lift weights, dudes!! I've got guns. I'm just scared of lifting weights overhead or doing pull ups or chin ups because of my shoulders. I can squat just fine. :thhbbb: It's those sun salutations I'm skipping out on.
I don't lift anything, including children or groceries over my shoulder level. Makes for an odd hair washing experience. Push ups and pulls ups are also a no-no. BB guns are still guns, right?
This is me. 1:05 100 BR, 2:25 200 BR. That's double plus 15. Very drop dead sprinter, considering my 50 BR was a 28.6.
According to Ande's formula, I too am a sprinter for FR, IM and the Flys (only things I swim).
So for example in the fly,
100 fly - 58.52
200 fly - 2:11 (that's double plus 14)
ha ha - I love playing on both sides of the fence.
to protect my lower back I don't squat or deadlift
I lift weights, dudes!! I've got guns. I'm just scared of lifting weights overhead or doing pull ups or chin ups because of my shoulders. I can squat just fine. :thhbbb: It's those sun salutations I'm skipping out on.
Laura did look pretty buff. Although AJ Block really sets the buff bar high. Good lord ... she looks like a sprinter even though she isn't.
I don't lift anything, including children or groceries over my shoulder level. Makes for an odd hair washing experience. Push ups and pulls ups are also a no-no.
Wise policy. I did some push ups on a bosu a couple months ago. My shoulder hurt for two weeks. Never again.
All right, I'll do a deadlift. That looks safe enough. What weight?
Back troubles stink, ande! I never had a back problem in my life until I tried power yoga. I'll never to do that again either.
to protect my lower back I don't squat or deadlift
I was the same way for the last 20 years....only started doinf dealifts and squats again 4 months ago....and VERY light. In fact I use a smith machine for squats because my knees are so bad...its kind of funny in the gym when a 6' 6" 240lb guy is using a smith machine to do squats with 100lbs and his wife is throwing down with about twice the weight...good thing I have no pride.
