ASU Men's Swimming/Diving Cut

Apparently it is part of a $32.5 million fund raising drive that will also pay for an indoor practice facility for football. That amount would be enough to fund the three sports that were cut indefinitely.

Why not go back to 1950 if you are going to go back to 1962. What is another 12 years when you are talking in decades. Since 1950, OSU has more swimming championships than the entire SEC conference if you are going to use your argument. Put it to rest. Two reasons why. First, it doesn't change the fact that OSU hasn't won bubcus in swimming in 46 years. Second, only geochuck can remember back that far and he's off on a Mexico journey at present. We can go back to the dawn of man and it won't change the fact that OSU is great, but only in the mind's of their fans.

So, with a major budget crunch and the possibility of actually making money vs. continuing to lose it on W's swimming, M's/W's diving and W's water polo...what are the chances aquatics are cut entirely in the next few years? Pretty good odds, especially at big universities with good football teams. What with multi-million dollars coaching salaries, multi-million dollars facilities for future drop outs to practice in, 85 football scholarships, luxury accommodations and meals for said scholarship athletes ... Something to proud of for sure ... Perhaps DIII schools will take over the collegiate swimming world, at least temporarily.

And, LSU spanked OSU like the little baby . Team Stat Comparison LSU/OSU Total Yards 326 / 353 Passing 174 / 208 Rushing 152 / 145 Penalties 4-36 / 7-83 Turnovers 1 / 3 Possession 33:56 / 26:04 I'm not sure why I am trying to convince Geek, he is pretty much unconvincable,(or anyoneelse on this forum for that matter) but.. I was there. It wasn't really a spanking. More like a scolding for turnovers. LSU was the most penalized team in the SEC this year. The refs were not calling any holding plays on LSU and continually would call ticky tack personal fouls on OSU. If you would like to look it up, it's in the books. I have a series of pictures that show the uncalls. Can't seem to find them right now. I will look at home. There were numerous flagrant holds that went uncalled for LSU. Do I think it would have changed the outcome? No. The NY Giants could not have won against LSU in the Superdome. I know one thing, that crowd would have gotten very ugly if OSU was given the uncalls that LSU had. The turnover ratio was the deciding factor. As for OSU being 0-9 against SEC teams in bowls, I would like to see any SEC team come North and play in January in Ohio, outside, in the snow, at a neutral site, in Cleveland or Cincinnati. All of those losses come at basically home venues for the SEC. Kudo's to Michigan for beating those Florida ..... By the way I was at the BCS Championship Game in Phoenix in 2007, that was a spanking. I feel bad for ASU.

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Was anyone suprised by geeks response? You are a funny guy and I will continue to laugh at any response you give. Never positive and always combative. If you just want to look at the final scoreboard, you are not a fan of the game. I am just telling you what I say first hand. Everytime OSU would get momentum... oh, what's the use, let's go have a beer. I'll be seeing you in the Coliseum and the Orange Bowl. Win or lose, we still get a hefty payday, and national exposure in what has become the bowl series of choice for the college presidents. We don't get to choose our games, they are appointed by the committee. Buckeyes travel well because the economy in Ohio has always been strong, we have money to spend on our hobbies, like college football. Plus, they have one of the largest, if not, the largest alumni population of any school. More people, more money spent. The BCS loves Ohio State. We spend a lot of money on football. Did I choose the system, no. I will play within the system. Say what you want, but Ohio State is Ohio State. Correct me if I am wrong. 11 National Swimming and Diving Championships. 7 National Championships in football. 1 Basketball National Championship. Going on countless Sychronize Swimming Championships, Men's Gymnastics Championships etc. People who want to argue that we suck or that we are not worthy of what we have won or lost are just jeolous of what the Buckeyes have accomplished year in and year out. Plain and simple. Nobody likes a winner. I know that a chirping bird is full of ****, but say the Buckeyes get past the Trojans on Sept. 13, with the schedule they have, you might as well get ready for the Buckeye to travel to Miami for a third straight appearance in the BCS Championship Game. Hopefully, against your said 'Dawgs. That's all I have to say about that. I feel bad for ASU Men's Swimming.

I think I heard schools get several million for BCS bowls ... amazing ... take a million (or heck half) off of that and spread it around to keep Olympic sports in the schools ... The BCS is 4 bowls (I think). The other 700 bowls actually make no money for the schools and the universities are lucky to break even on most of them. OSU as an average football program example is kind of like using Michael Jordan as an example of an average basketball player.

2 things 1. ASU is still near the top of PAC 10 in the number of sports offered. 2. I was thinking about chanin my life and going back to grad school. ASU was in my top 3. After i heard the announcement, I called the athletic dept. and left a messae for ms. Love that ASU isn't even on the list now. their football budget eats almost every drop of money that oes into the athletic budget. There used to be a rumor that football paid for all of the sports a collee offered. That was always just a rumor.

ASU has one of the highest in-coming Freshman scores in the PAC. Also one of the highest rad rates for its football program. What is the real problem is that students who participated in swimming, golf, wrestling, and tennis are the most likely to donate to the university where they played. the least likely are football players.

The BCS is 4 bowls (I think). The other 700 bowls actually make no money for the schools and the universities are lucky to break even on most of them. OSU as an average football program example is kind of like using Michael Jordan as an example of an average basketball player. I didn't say Ohio State was average I said I could only speak to their program. I understand that Ohio State is VERY unique. They earn and spend a ton (upwards of 100 mil) on athletics. They are fortunate to have a phenonmenal football team as well as big time donnors. My point was saying that in BCS games (notice I left out other bowls) the teams earn several million (I believe around 5 if not more) that you could take a million off of that and you'd have an additional 10 million to throw to schools that are struggling to keep their Olympic sports. I realize that this will never happen but the money is out there ...