Let's go back to the old ways

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That's it, all you ancient swim romantics have convinced me. We need to ban the new suits and require everyone to wear the same type (not brand). We just have to decide which is the 'right' model. I submit that you revisionist dogs who think that briefs are it don't know much about swimming history. I'm attaching a photo of Duke Kahanamoku with this message to show you what the competition swimwear was like in the first part of the 20th century. Clearly men were men here and could be one with the water. The suit certainly never helped or hindered and one could feel every molecule of water swirling by during the swim. Ah, those were the days. Who do we have to thank for the loss of such elegant swimwear used by the Duke? Was it Adolph Kiefer? Who introduced the horrible brief innovation into the sport? Whoever it was, they should be removed from the Hall of Fame, stricken from all records, and never spoken of again!
  • That's even worse than the burqini. Notice none of the models is actually pictured anywhere near water? The original models were all in the water, but drown after the suits got wet and heavy..... Now that you mention it, I think the characters of Ron, Hermione, Cho, and Gabrielle were using those suits in "Goblet of Fire".
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    Personally, I want to go to this for men and women. www.wholesomewear.com/page-4.html Which of the first three model suits should I wear.
  • 962 I also notice that the other students think Harry is a cheater, and here he is with a full body tech-suit !
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    Thanks for the suggestion I orderd one. I hope it arrives before I head back to Mexico, I can't wait to show it off. I hope the federallies don't arrest me. They may allow me to go to the female impersonators club.
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    That's even worse than the burqini. Notice none of the models is actually pictured anywhere near water?
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    That's even worse than the burqini. Notice none of the models is actually pictured anywhere near water? The original models were all in the water, but drown after the suits got wet and heavy.....
  • I believe that swimming was at its finest in the 1960s through the early 80s when simple briefs were the norm. Considering both the loss of sensation of being in the water and the controversy that the introduction of "suit technology" has caused, I wouldn’t mind at all if we went back to those old ways -and just stayed there forever. :wine: Is there anything stopping you? At our recent Zones, certainly there were a lot of technical suits in evidence but also plenty of jammers and briefs. Go for it; "it's just masters" after all, it should be enjoyable above all else.
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    Up until the introduction of the "tech" suits, the trend was for swimsuits to be increasingly less intrusive. You basically wore as little material as you could get away with and as form-fitting as possible. Now the trend has gone back to making the suit obtrusive again. Now the suit is sort of actively helping the swimmer, whereas before it was seen as hindering the swimmer. That change in the trend is the problem I have with the tech suits. As I’ve said in other posts on this topic, a swim suit should be as unobtrusive as possible and I like briefs because they are the most logical and comforatable thing to wear in the water. I believe that swimming was at its finest in the 1960s through the early 80s when simple briefs were the norm. Considering both the loss of sensation of being in the water and the controversy that the introduction of "suit technology" has caused, I wouldn’t mind at all if we went back to those old ways -and just stayed there forever. :wine: By the way, if Adolf Kiefer was in fact the one who is credited for the introduction of briefs to swimming, then Kudos for him! He should be remembered for his simple and logical thinking -like who ever invented the wheel! :wine: “If you ain’t really gettin’ wet all over, you ain’t really swimin'." Dolphin 2 :)
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    We don't want to go backwards in stroke technique the changes are great. Back to what I wear now is fine. My trusty speedo briefs. Leave the jammers in the drawer.
  • I had some time drops at the NW zone meet this weekend, and I had a speedo FS2 legskin, the first time I've worn a racing-type suit. I'm sort of wondering how much of the improvement was due to training, taper, faster pool, and finally the suit. There is a temptation to go buy the fastest racing suit available, but I also want to see what I'm capable of without the benefit of a racing suit, so I'll probably just keep the FS2 and only wear it for big meets, and just use a normal suit at other meets. In my case I'm not competing against anyone for the most part, I just want to reach and beat my old times. If I were to beat my 500 free time from 1986 using an LZR suit for example, I'd have some nagging doubts about if I really beat it or what I would have gotten in 1986 if the LZR had been around then. David, if you are just competing against yourself, then consider not wearing the suit. Last weekend I did my fastest 500 since 1995, wearing only conventional briefs. In my other races I came close to or beat all my times from last year when I wore the FSII kneeskin. I'm not on a mission to ban the LZR or convert anyone, but I was wondering exactly the same thing as you -- how much me, how much the suit? -- and it is kind of nice to answer the question and not to have to worry about the gyrations necessary to put on all that carp. It also makes it so much easier to pee just before a race.:laugh2: