hey, i want to know about my fly. i have some vids so you can give me some tips. also please note that in the IM vid i didn't turn hard because i was jsut preserving my rank, its in the next day that i haul(didn't wanna blow myself out in prelims ya know).
www.youtube.com/watch for the 200 IM in SCM
www.youtube.com/watch for my all out 50 fly, well 95% it was still prelims after all.
any advice would be appreciated. thanks
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thanks for everything. i will be conditioning tomorrow in th pool. my friend who taped my races will bring my camera|? any angles/ races you would like to see? i'm probably going to do a 100 butterfly being that i haven't done one in over 3 years. hopefully ill break a minute.
I don't suppose your camera is waterproof? Or that your pool has an underwater window? The most important stuff happens under the surface.
It is an interesting general question, what are the views that are the most useful and telling? Ideally one can get multiple views, each of which potentially reveals something. I find that underwater from the side and from the front are the most useful. From above water, the view from the middle of the side of the pool so you get swimming toward and away is good (as per your 200 IM video) and if you capture the whole swim (say your 100fly) you can capture the splits and stroke counts etc. from the video. From the end of the lane can be ok for detecting fishtailing and cross-over in free. Overhead is good if you have diving platforms at the pool. If you can get an angle or lighting where you can see what is happening underwater instead of just glare off the surface that is helpful. A tracking shot can sometimes be helpful. Directly underneath can be good but is hard to get without a waterproof camera.
Unfortunately, the view that is most useful depends on the flaw the swimmer has, which you usually don't know until after you see it, so the more views the better. In your case it wouldn't hurt to get some good shots of your turns and streamlines. :agree:
It is also very helpful if your camera operator is good at doing a smooth zoom in and out so that you aren't a tiny speck at the far end of the pool but don't fit in the frame at the close end.
I don't suppose your camera is waterproof? Or that your pool has an underwater window? The most important stuff happens under the surface.
It is an interesting general question, what are the views that are the most useful and telling? Ideally one can get multiple views, each of which potentially reveals something. I find that underwater from the side and from the front are the most useful. From above water, the view from the middle of the side of the pool so you get swimming toward and away is good (as per your 200 IM video) and if you capture the whole swim (say your 100fly) you can capture the splits and stroke counts etc. from the video. From the end of the lane can be ok for detecting fishtailing and cross-over in free. Overhead is good if you have diving platforms at the pool. If you can get an angle or lighting where you can see what is happening underwater instead of just glare off the surface that is helpful. A tracking shot can sometimes be helpful. Directly underneath can be good but is hard to get without a waterproof camera.
Unfortunately, the view that is most useful depends on the flaw the swimmer has, which you usually don't know until after you see it, so the more views the better. In your case it wouldn't hurt to get some good shots of your turns and streamlines. :agree:
It is also very helpful if your camera operator is good at doing a smooth zoom in and out so that you aren't a tiny speck at the far end of the pool but don't fit in the frame at the close end.
it's no waterproof. I wish it was because i have yet to see my stoke underwater. I may buy one of those in a couple of weeks, or if i really want i can go to cvs and buy a disposable waterproof video camera|( i was surprised they had those!) they only have 15 minutes of film and are a tad on the expensive side. but i think it will shed some light on the more technical flaws in my stroke. I'll try to get it from a couple of different views.