There is no way a suit makes 9/100ths of a second difference. I don't have any data to support that claim, just a somewhat educated guess.
Sorry T.J but I totally disagree...suit technology plays a significant pat in how fast we are seeing people race "in season" and my guess is that it probably has more of an effect than 9/100ths.
The bigger question to me is the one JS posed, not how much of a differance the latest Fastskin technology has vs. the first or second generation but rather vs. the old school bikini days (which Mr. Commings still embraces!).
By the way speaking of suits....as of the end of December Arena USA shuttered its operations here in the US...not sure where that leaves those of us who use their suits!
Hineck fastskin type suits pretty much remove the shave factor from the equation, there's still rest / tapering and psych.
(some meets matter more than others)
I'm not sure how much better one generation of suits is over the others
I wish I had jammers, legskins and hinecks of the:
1) Fastskin
2) Fastskin II
3) Fastskin pro and
4) LZR
to experiement and figure which works best
you'd think speedo or nike would do a study with a group of swimmers
then publish the results,
unless . . .
Sorry T.J but I totally disagree...suit technology plays a significant pat in how fast we are seeing people race "in season" and my guess is that it probably has more of an effect than 9/100ths.
The bigger question to me is the one JS posed, not how much of a differance the latest Fastskin technology has vs. the first or second generation but rather vs. the old school bikini days (which Mr. Commings still embraces!).
By the way speaking of suits....as of the end of December Arena USA shuttered its operations here in the US...not sure where that leaves those of us who use their suits!
Just to play devils advocate.......
Maybe that's why they haven't.....there isn't enough difference......just another ploy to get you to buy yet another NEW suit.......
About 4-5 years ago when the first suits came out one of the Grad Assistants at ASU did a study as part of his thesis....partly funded by several of the manufacturers (my wife was one of the subjects).
The testing was pretty thorough measuring friction, dry weight vs. wet, buoyancy and how all was effected over time, etc. etc. He found that there was indeed an effect to the suits...especially (and contrary to FINA) with regard to buoyancy and he found they did have a positive effect which was actually reversed after the suit became soaked (after about 15 minutes which I've mentioned here before and why I don't warm up in my suit)(Speedo's suit at the time was only the 3rd most effective).
As far as I know the study was published but not picked up on by the swimming media...I'm going to try and track brian down and see if I can find it.
It was a very bad video, maybe some new ones coming up.
Here is another video that is in a news broacast cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/.../
In the other video I saw him breath on the left side. I think I saw him breathe on the right side also in the news video..
Hey George,
You think you could take out the clip of the underwater and put it in slow mode for us? Also, I'm interested in the counts, etc.
Jonathan
ps. Leslie, that avatar is cool... at least you have an actual picture, compared to some who.... wait... this isn't the whiner's thread...
Just to play devils advocate.......
Maybe that's why they haven't.....there isn't enough difference......just another ploy to get you to buy yet another NEW suit.......
Thanks Paul,
That is one of the things I always tell the high school kids....only wear it during a race.
Would love to see the results from the study.
I know personally I like the way the Fastskin II feels in the water.
I downloaded this one a few minutes ago, slow mo underwater. I think I saw three breaths???
www.watchuonline.com/.../Eamon-Sullivan-Underwater-Slow-Motion.html
Hey George,
You think you could take out the clip of the underwater and put it in slow mode for us? Also, I'm interested in the counts, etc.
Jonathan
ps. Leslie, that avatar is cool... at least you have an actual picture, compared to some who.... wait... this isn't the whiner's thread...
I made that video! :)
www.youtube.com/watch
Note that it is the same short clip, first at regular speed, then at half, then at quarter speed, so the three breaths were just one.
Thank you Lindsay. Where did you get the original so I can download it in regular speed so I can put the regular speed video into My Dartswim program.
Its from the news video Ande provided in message #23.
