Poor ventilation/warm water

If you are having frequent “terrible headaches” please see your doctor. If these are linked to environmental issues at the pool then the Y may begin to take notice. Also, you may be better served dealing with the Director instead of the maintenance department. And unless your doctor can suggest an environmental link, I would not go to the health inspector. From first hand experience, involving outside parties often leads to the termination of the program instead of resolving the problem in favor of the swim team.

From first hand experience, involving outside parties often leads to the termination of the program instead of resolving the problem in favor of the swim team. I'm sympathetic to your position, but in my experience warm water temps at the Y are usually justified to make the pool comfortable for the little tots, who are themselves most likely to be susceptible to increased levels of environmental irritants or bacteria in the water. Their safety should take precedence. Skip

You are in a no-win situation. It is impossible to train at any decent level at those temperatures but is probably not dangerous (unless somebody gets heat stroke--but that would be a pretty tough kid that could push himself to that kind of pain in those temperatures). I agree that involving outside parties is useless. With environmental issues (and a multitude of things in the environment), it will be impossible to prove your headaches are from the toxic waste dump you are swimming in and raising a stink will most probably get the program booted as they don't want to deal with the aggravation.

Warm water temps at the Y are solely for the athritis classes aka noodlers. These temps aren't because of tot classes at all. This is a long running feud on this forum. My opinon only - the insistence of Ys to keep pools at 86+ degrees is a large factor in the demise of many Y swim teams. It is insufferable to swim in and awful to watch from inside a pool with water that hot. I've also witnessed the draining of the hot pool versus the cool pool. The hot pool is horrific when drained and smells worse. I actually witnessed a noodler the other day in the "pee" pool in a wetsuit because the temp was only 85 degrees. It's out of control.

Warm water temps at the Y are solely for the athritis classes aka noodlers. These temps aren't because of tot classes at all. This is a long running feud on this forum. My opinon only - the insistence of Ys to keep pools at 86+ degrees is a large factor in the demise of many Y swim teams. It is insufferable to swim in and awful to watch from inside a pool with water that hot. In my area, when I was growing up, one of the local Y's had a swim team. We knew about it, knew people who were on it... they were coached, looked like they swam "real practices," etc. My mom hated when there were other kids' birthday parties in there, cause the atmosphere gave her a huge fro in about 10 minutes. But a couple years after first hearing about it, I hadn't heard it mentioned again. The program guide lists that they still have something that would amount to some sort of team, but what is offered looks to be far from a real team. Their pools are today at 84 and 86, and they have a lot of water buffalo classes. I've never heard of them sending anyone to Y-Nationals (masters or youth). If they ever had any sort of program, those kids all went to swim for RMSC or Curl-Burke - at a pool that is not stifling. As a matter of fact, I was surprised to hear that YMCA swimming was actually good and that Y-Nationals had fast people (aka the blue muppet) - primarily due to my perceptions of all YMCAs, based off this place. Any other Y I've visited, I've found similar "weather," and had no reason to think otherwise.

I'm sympathetic to your position, but in my experience warm water temps at the Y are usually justified to make the pool comfortable for the little tots, who are themselves most likely to be susceptible to increased levels of environmental irritants or bacteria in the water. Their safety should take precedence. Skip sorry, but 90 + is excessive.....our Y is pretty accomodating to our little guys and the elderly, but even they keep it more at 88 for our "rec" pool........the lapswim/team pool is closer to 85..... and I have been told by some of the life guards that our water park (shallow,very warm water) actually needs the highest amount of chemicals to keep the water safe and the air quality in that place is horrid, I have seen people come out of there with watering eyes and difficulty breathing.....

I would think that , especially for the elderly, both swimming and aqua aerobics in very warm water, is going to raise the core temperature too high and that can't be good. If you are submerged in water and you are moving at a moderate speed you should be warming up from the excersize. And if you are still cold, well maybe you are just working those jaw muscles instead.....:blah: ....No offence......

In my area, when I was growing up, one of the local Y's had a swim team. We knew about it, knew people who were on it... they were coached, looked like they swam "real practices," etc. My mom hated when there were other kids' birthday parties in there, cause the atmosphere gave her a huge fro in about 10 minutes. But a couple years after first hearing about it, I hadn't heard it mentioned again. The program guide lists that they still have something that would amount to some sort of team, but what is offered looks to be far from a real team. Their pools are today at 84 and 86, and they have a lot of water buffalo classes. I've never heard of them sending anyone to Y-Nationals (masters or youth). If they ever had any sort of program, those kids all went to swim for RMSC or Curl-Burke - at a pool that is not stifling. As a matter of fact, I was surprised to hear that YMCA swimming was actually good and that Y-Nationals had fast people (aka the blue muppet) - primarily due to my perceptions of all YMCAs, based off this place. Any other Y I've visited, I've found similar "weather," and had no reason to think otherwise. well, our Y has 3 Olympic trials qualifiers , warm water and all....:cheerleader:

Warm water temps at the Y are solely for the athritis classes aka noodlers. These temps aren't because of tot classes at all. ... Well... I've seen a lot of shivering blue children in the locker room of my community pool after swim classes, most of them under 5 years of age. My husband's youngest grand-daughter was a shiverer up to age eight, what with being a really skinny kid with no upholstery whatsoever.

well, our Y has 3 Olympic trials qualifiers , warm water and all....:cheerleader: Yes, it was the blue muppet, a Pennsylvanian like yourself, that opened my eyes to the better side of Y swimming. You guys' Y's know whats up when it comes to swimming. Like I said, my experience was so tainted, I couldn't imagine otherwise.