Brendan Hansen went 59.98 in the 100 back at the Texas Senior Circuit meet. He's the first man to go under 1:00 in all four strokes. Wow.
Brendan was able to do something I couldn't do at that age: break the 1:00 barrier in the 100 back -- as well as break 1:00 in the 100 fly and 100 ***! I was always so close to the backstroke barrier, but never could get under, and I never got the opportunity to swim it shaved until masters, when I finally broke through.
I have no idea what his backstroke looks like or if he actually likes doing it, but I don't care. Let's welcome Brendan to the exclusive club of breaststrokers who do backstroke.
I wish I had been able to race Brendan. I went that exact same time (shaved, of course) at a meet six weeks ago.
Here's the report from timedfinals: "The Texas Senior Circuit Championships closed tonight in Austin with Longhorn Aquatics’ Neil Walker, Garret Weber-Gale, Tanica Jamison, and Nick Thoman providing great swimming. Twas a swim from a consolation final, however, that allowed World Record Holder Brendan Hansen to come away as the man of the night.
Hansen came into the B Final of the 100 back with the hopes of an entire aquatics complex nestled heavily on his back. One could cut the tension at the pool with a knife as Brendan uncomfortably jumped into the water and put his back to the pool. Not someone to shy away from dramatics, Hansen finished in an amazingly close 59.98 to the delight of the fans. The first man in history to go under 1:00 in all four strokes. Quite an impressive feat indeed. Congratulations Brendan."
Allen:
It appears that scenario 1 is what determines if you break a USMS Record. I believe these are the season ending records that are published in the USMS Rule Book. So in this case everyone gets a record. I noticed that in the 200 IM in that age group, 4 women will get credit for breaking the record. So it could happen that you could get 5th at USMS Nationals and still be a USMS National Record holder. I know USA Swimming and FINA Swimming do not figure records this way. I wonder if FINA Masters figures records this way. I know FINA posts records every 6 months but do they give credit for Records swims in between those time periods.
Now for Relays, I don't think USMS does this. In 1995, I was part of a Relay that broke the USMS National Record but some other team went faster during the season and they got the record which was expected. We were the only other Relay team to go faster that the published record but were 2nd in the Top Ten. I don't think the Relays could get certificates for breaking the published record back then.
Hey Fort.....hope you've been well?!
Natalie I believe holds the AR in the 200 free....and her 4:10 in the 400m at that meet shows she's certainly in shape to make a run at the 200IM.....I read a quote from her saying the 200 back is the one race she never wants to swim again.
My recollection is that she has been anti-200 back for years -- probably since college as Kirk said. It is a blastedly boring event, so I can see why. (Sorry, Frank!)
I know she swims the 200 free in the 800 relay. But at big meets these days, she just sprints. Like me. I'm good, BTW, Paul. A bit harried with busy kidlets, but good. Even did some 100 flys in practice the other day so people wouldn't continually deride me. :rofl:
Jeff:
Just think how much faster you'd be if you actually learned the SDK! Break out of the caveman mentality. Buy a bodysuit and MF. :rofl: The back-*** combo still amazes me though. From my own observations, it still seems relatively rare.
On Nov 1 of each year we "close" the books on USMS records and publish in the USMS Rule Book and on the Web, the "current" record holders. Then these records become the ones to beat for the next year until Nov 1. Everyone that beats these published records gets added to the USMS Records Web Site with name and time in italics and they get a certificate because they "broke" the published record. Then on Nov 1 we take the fastest swim as the new Rule Book record and start over again. The same is true for Relays.
So in a meet the first and second place finishers could qualify as a "record breaker" and with proper documentation both will get a certificate and be added to the Web page. Given the fact that at any point in time we really do not know what the "current" record is because records can be broken at any sanctioned or recognized meet this seemed to be a fair solution to this problem. Remember we approve around 200-300 records each year.
FINA Masters World Records are handled the same as USMS except their are two closing dates (May 1 and Nov 1 ) for publishing the records. Again anyone that breaks the published record gets a certificate from FINA.
Not sure this explanation really belongs here but I saw several references to how records are handled and I hope this helps.
This year Karlyn Pipes-Neilsen broke the USMS record in EVERY SCY event for Women 45-49, with the exception of the 500 free and 400 IM. And she broke the 500 Free record at nationals going out in her 1000, however due to a timing malfunction the time did not count. I’m not sure why she didn’t get the 400 IM. I’m sure she will rectify this in LCM.
Rob:
Are you sure about this? I just received my USMS Swimmer magazine yesterday and read the article written by Jeff Commings. I see on page 19 in the display box that Caroline Kratti has all of the USMS Records in 45-49 age group for the 50, 100, and 200 ***. In fact there is a picture on the page of Caroline Kratti celebrating this. As I saw that I thought about Karlyn having practically most of the records in the age group but not all of them. I do remember that back in 1997, that in the 35-39 age group that she had 1st place in the USMS Top Ten in all 53 events in the 3 courses and was the only Women All American for the 35-39 age group. In 1998, she was first in everthing except the breastrokes and Caroline Kratti and Patty Powis were the only other All Americans in that age group because they got first in breastroke events.
Thanks for the youtube vid! Hansen is awesome! It is great to know, however, that even the most elite can jam their turns (#1) and slow down going into a turn.
Your welcome.
He went a 51.73. Not too shabby.
Heather: I don't think Natalie likes to swim anything over a 100 in a big meet anymore.
Except go 1:56.4 leading off the 800 free relay at worlds. There was an interview with her awhile back, where is said she is starting to figure out and enjoy the 200 free. Depending on the schedule, I think the 200 free and 100 back overlap some at major meets(prelims-semis-finals type meet) so she probably wont give up the 100bk for the 200 free.
I think in the same interview, she said she found the 200 back to be boring, that is why she doesnt swim it anymore.
I went 51.63 at nationals....And without all that silly dolphin kicking...
Jeff,
That's outstanding (even more so coming from a breaststroker) ...and with no SDK's!
Maybe you're hiding a 50 point or better up your sleeve? ...ever tried doing them?
Break out of the caveman mentality.
Wasn't it Mr. Commings who was lamenting his inability to find a new yellow Sony Sports Walkman in which to play his extensive collection of cassette tapes at meets?
