The FINA rules say no but not considering the rulebook, should Libby Lenton's 52.99 go in the record books. There has been alot of debate on this in the other thread. What do you think?
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The drafting thing is not even a possibility. It could only be of benifit if they swam in the same lane and were very close to each other.
I have probably done more drafting then anyone else here. Beleive me she did not draft. Those wave buster ropes looked to be very good ones.
Give her credit she broke the worlds record. The only Jerks in this picture are the FINA people who rejected the WR.
As I recall she was swimming close to the lane rope of Phelps' lane. She knew what was up.
Geek, show me one test that has come back positive on one of the most tested people in the game (kind of like Lance Armstrong) and I will agree with you 100%.....until then......Barry will own the Home Run record by the end of the year.....and this is coming from a Dodger fan....we don't like those pesky Giants much!
By the way....does this mean that Lance should lose all of his Tour wins? Because somebody else THINKS he was cheating?
As I recall she was swimming close to the lane rope of Phelps' lane. She knew what was up.
So, Thorpe or anyone else for that matter swimming next to somebody (drafting) should have an asterisk next to theirs? Or should we just go ahead and take it away now?
Other women don't go out fast and fade at the turn? Ever?
And yet FINA rules count a lead-off for a relay that is later DQ'd. So it is not unambiguous. And the whole reason this argument exists is because many people think the "explanation" is the after the fact, because they cannot say what they want to.
I think the opinion is jerky. Not the person.
I suppose your idea is possible, but not probable.
If the entire lead off swim is legal then it should make no difference what the following swimmers do. If the anchor jumps the gun on his start how does that effect the lead swimmers time?
If my opinions are jerky then so must be I. It's okay, I don't mind...really. ;)
So, Thorpe or anyone else for that matter swimming next to somebody (drafting) should have an asterisk next to theirs? Or should we just go ahead and take it away now?
When did Thorpe set a WR by swimming behind a faster swimmer?
When did Thorpe set a WR by swimming behind a faster swimmer?
So you're telling me that on every one of his WR races he led from start to finish? I'll have to see if I can find some footage.
Yes, in the country I was raised in most people are innocent until proven guilty! I have known a lot of people....myself included that have put on weight and gotten larger over the years. Through weights and diet it is possible.
By the way, how long after you quit using steroids do the effects start wearing off? Shouldn't he have started getting smaller again by now?
The reason that this is not being ratified is probably a bit different than any argument that I've seen here so far. It is probably similar to the reason that they don't allow records in track events (road events are different) to stand if they are set in mixed competition. The idea has always been that in mixed events men can easily pace women to world (or other) record times. FINA is probably ruling this way so that we don't start to see deliberately set-up records using men as pacers. I'm not saying that this happened in this case, but that FINA is attempting to be proactive about it.
-LBJ
Since someone mentioned Thorpe...didn't he swim just a littl bit behind Grant Hackett at the 2001 Worlds in the 800 free? Then on the last 100 out sprint Hackett to win and break the world record? So, should that have counted since he swam just a bit behind Hackett for 700 meters, letting him do more of the work?
Just wondering...