Libby Lenton's 52.99

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FINA...in their grand wisdom, has decided NOT to make Libby Lenton's 52.99 as a world record. This has been reported the the Herald Sun out of Australia. Once again, FINA shows that it is run by politicans, not swimmers or swimming fans. So, Thank You FINA for once again screwing things up.
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    I wouldn't say so. The way I see it Libby was drafting off a man who would create a draft much stronger than if she were racing another woman and she could get picked up in that draft much easier than a man would swimming next to phelps because she's much lighter than he is.
  • I wouldn't say so. The way I see it Libby was drafting off a man who would create a draft much stronger than if she were racing another woman and she could get picked up in that draft much easier than a man would swimming next to phelps because she's much lighter than he is. I think the record should stand....here's why; If Michael Phelps is swimming in lane 4 (any event) and the swimmer in lane 3 or lane 5 takes second...then technically the swimmers in lanes that we're not adjacent to him and his draft all we're at a disadvantage....heck ask Geek with his wealth of experience in the Tri world he should know all about drafting! was there some effect due to drafting? Absolutely....anyone who has ever raced can't deny that occurs. Just because the drafting happened with a man not a woman next to her doesn't matter to me.
  • Rob: Would the record not count because in Masters we do not have drug testing after a World Record has been set an FINA does have testing done in FINA Swimming? Of course in this case that might be an exception the way all of the testing has been done on Dara. I know FINA World and USMS Record times have counted in the past for FINA World Rankings for FINA Swimming. Kevin DeForest back in 1983 at the Long Course Nationals swam a :22.59 for the 50 Free and missed Robin Leamy World Record by .05 and was ranked 3rd in the World that year from the results of the Masters meet. Kevin still has the record and its one of the oldest USMS Records if not the oldest.
  • What if Dara shaved for masters nationals this week, swam the 50 free and broke Inge de Bruijn's world record, then came back the next day in the mixed 200 free relay and lowered that mark leading off for her team, and swimming next to a man who goes the same time? Which time would count?Answer: Neither. I believe that FINA does not recognize times achieved at Masters events for open World Records. However, both of those swims would be considered for FINA Masters records. Note: Dara’s times from Sr. Nationals could be submitted for consideration for USMS records but not for FINA Masters records.
  • She started from the blocks and swam the whole 100 herself.....World Record! AMEN!
  • I'm so torn on what I think about Libby's time. FINA does some shaddy stuff. Hopefully though she will be able to repeat this effort. That'd be amazing. Myabe she doped the day before?? In all honesty I bet Phelps had an effect whether physical, mental, or both.
  • What if Dara shaved for masters nationals this week, swam the 50 free and broke Inge de Bruijn's world record, then came back the next day in the mixed 200 free relay and lowered that mark leading off for her team, and swimming next to a man who goes the same time? Which time would count?
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    With all due respect... what are you smoking? She could have just lay there without moving her arms, and she would have still gone under 1:00. oster, there is no respect being shown when you write "what are you smoking?" In fact, that is the opposite of respect.
  • I have watched the video several times- I don't think she got a meaningful draft anyway; With all due respect... what are you smoking? She could have just lay there without moving her arms, and she would have still gone under 1:00. There's a part of the video that is looking up at Phelps... you can see the wake pattern behind him. It looks like the wake pattern of a ski boat moving through the water. She got a _gigantic_ draft off of Phelps in that race. Especially because the rest of the pool was empty. If there were swimmers in the other 6 (or 8) lanes, there would be lots of other wake in the pool causing different wave patterns. But the pool was empty and flat except for the two swimmers. Talk about _optimal_ drafting conditions! -Rick
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    Rick I looked at those lane dividers and they were really doing a great job they broke things up pretty well. But the good thing here is everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Right or wrong. Now just because I think you are wrong that does not mean you are wrong. I was not there and I am going by videos and my interpretation does not have to agree with yours. I could be wrong and I have never smoked anything either.