This has been bothering me for years, you know, you hear that a research study has been conducted and they find that eggs are bad for you, and then back in the 1980s, it was highly recommended that people each more carbs and those folks started packing on pounds (probably they added too much oil to their pasta dishes, who knows), and the low-fat items which are indeed low fat, but they are loaded with chemicals and carbs to get them that way, and tonight on the news, there is now a research report that says people are passing away from vitamins and supplements. The vitamin manufacturers did report they have seen an increase in this, but don't know why. This was on the Ticker on Fox News.
So does the general population really follow these trendy research reports? I know I have always been skeptical of any report. I remember back when I was a child I saw very few overweight people; there weren't a lot of fastfood places to eat; we ate balanced meals and snacks were fruit. Not anymore it seems. And the only reason why I am large is because I put in more than I spend (well, duh).
There was a report that did get my attention several years ago and it came from the Mayo Clinic. They reported they found that sunblock caused some skin cancers. Now, this was squashed after being on the news for a few short days, but their study really went into detail and it had been conducted for over 15 years. A friend of mine who is a dermatologist in California agrees with this study in some cases. He says he is finding an alarming number of cancers that are attributed to overuse of sunblocks. His recommendation is to cover the body with lightweight clothing, stay in the sun only 2 hours a day for the vitamin benefits, and to use nothing over a 15 sunblock.
So, even though after being on this island for six years now, and having ate more fish than is probably in the sea, I am longing for enchiladas and anything beef because I haven't seen a study yet on enchiladas.
Thoughts?
Donna
Former Member
Re: Vitamins.
I heard recently on Dr. Dean Edell that copper has been linked to alzheimers disease. Apparently the research suggests throwing away any multivitamin containing more than 2mg of CU per dose to avoid this problem. He feels that the evidence is strong enough to warrant immediate action. Truth be told, you are far better off getting your vitamins from food anyhow. Eat right and don't worry about popping pills unless your MD tells you to.
Also, carbs don't really pack on the pounds...unburned calories do. That is a common misconception that people have, much like the one about doing situps to remove fat around the waist.
Reminds me of a book Dr. Dean was going to write about losing weight. He said it would be the shortest book ever written. One page is all he would need and it would essentially say to exercise and eat a wide variety of foods in moderation.
Everybody in here has at least one step correct...we all swim and that is providing a benefit that far too many people are not getting. Kudos.
I'm a believer in moderation and try not to get caught up in the "killer of the month" reports.
Rick Bayless, a chef/owner of Frontera Grill in Chicago, wrote his philosophy about food and eating in the intro to his cookbook "Everyday Mexican". I came to a similar conclusion independently as I worked on losing weight last year (lost 30 lbs so far; still aways from my prom weight ;), but getting there).
He had two pieces of advice. First, eat around the perimeter of a grocery store, ie don't eat prepared foods. Second, eat 'everyday' foods every day, and eat 'feast' foods once in a while. His observation is that most diets are based on deprivation, rather than sensible eating. Further, he notes, our bodies need to pig out once in a while. If we don't let them, the 'feasting' will eventually last for days.
For me that made sense. I stuck to a 1100-1700 calorie day eating very, very well (it helps that I love to cook). I made the decision before I even started that a couple hundred of those calories were going to come from cream and sugar in my morning coffee, lest I should become unspeakable. For a special occasion, I ate what ever I wanted and didn't worry about it.
I have friends (and family members), Donna, that make dining in or out an awful experience, what with comments on what's "bad for you now" or commenting on the calorie, fat content, carbs, sugars...UGH!...on everything they eat. It's like they are at war with food.
My Italian grandparents ate fresh foods, cooked with lots of olive oil and drank plenty of homemade wine. They lived, healthy and sharp-witted, into their 90s. I can only hope I'll do as well. :drink:
Excellent for boosting your high density lipoprotein...especially when coupled with exercise.
Italian huh? Ciao.
Eels aren't happening, but I'm down for the other two...well that depends...define pie, mash, and liquor? Fish and chips is one of my favorites though!!!!
A pie, mash potato and a parsley sauce called "liquor" not booze :)
It's very traditional in East London (where I grew up). I always make a point of eating it when I am there. Yum.
You had a cat?!! I thought you were allergic? Cats are the worst.
I still got him, expensive though he is. I am severely allergic to dogs. So that is the worst. Cats I only have a minor allergy to. But it doesn't help living with him. Unfortunately, we got the cat before the allergies reared their ugly head. The kids would rather have me leave than the cats. Not a bad idea really, then I might be able to get a life. :rofl: I think the third delivery or old age triggered the allergies big time. I'm not overly fond of deliveries. But I'm all done. So now I'm just taking drugs and vitamins and enchiladas again ...
Don't ephedra and diet pills make you hyper? I can't imagine that is helpful for sleep.
I find the pace at which some things are good for you being discovered to be potent carcinogens and vice versa (I am being extreme, but you know what I mean) to be dizzying. Two little factoids that I have grasped that still seem to be current are: drinking stuff with caffeine can seriously interfere with absorption of various vitamins and calcium. Equally Tums are supposed to mess up vitamin and medicine uptake.
Also something in grapefruit juice can seriously combine with some medications (I think some heart drugs) to produce side effects. I couldn't explain the apparent biochemical reasons for this and would welcome amplification (or rebuttal for that matter).
Another even more serious concern: it is established in the medical community that taking more than a certain number of medications at once can lead to unpredictable side effects. Even if your medical professional is right on top of this issue, some of us add patent medicines, supplements, herbal concoctions that can contain potent ingredients (esp. herbals) that can interact with your medications as well.
I'm a bit dizzy too these days with info.
I'm not giving up caffeine. The latest is that it's good, so I will continue to imbibe in the morning. I have read that antacids and tums can interfere with things, especially antibiotics. I thought grapefruit was an anti-inflammatory too. Crap.
Yes, that Mayo Clinic is quite the place, isn't it?
Donna:
I never drink sugar pop. Blech. That's not a good way to get calories. Wine, dear. Or Monkey La Las or whatever. Off to get my diet coke. I think my eyes are up for a swim today. Sounds like you had a good one.
Les- you don't have to give up caffeine, but time your intake of stuff it might interfere with. I presume you're not chugging down caffeine during your late-night ode-preparation time, are you?
Rich, right, now you've turned my stomach- green tea, blech!
Peter:
Oh no, no, no, no, no. There is no caffeine in my body whatsoever after about noon. Unless I am sprinting at some meet, a quite infrequent event these days. I seem to just be zipping around on my own at night. I have to have a life after all, after the kids tuck in. Too much computer time lately too, I guess. Have to go back to doing more reading.
Green tea. Blech. Stick it on the eyes only, as Rich suggests. I though Brits had turned to coffee anyway.
I don't take any of this crap. I think you could all be wasting your money. I just eat healthy and exercise.
I agree with this. People go nuts with all the supplements and vitamins. You should be getting what you need purely from diet, and if you aren't then alter your diet a little.
....Maybe that has something to do with why I look 8 months pregnant....I am hoping to change these things soon of course!Newmastersswimmer
Do it. That's why I started swimming. I looked like how you describe yourself. Didn't have any desire to resume running and walking wasn't doing the trick either. So I started going to the pool, cut back on the eats, and started being a little more choosy about what I ate. Dropped about 25 pounds and found out I wasn't too bad of a swimmer either. Now it's an addiction.
....I plan on living forever....the head in a jar scenario from futurama perhaps...LOL!! ...or more like stem cell generated organ replacements....nanabot health monitors streaming thru my bloodstream checking every nuance of every cell in my body for optimal cellular health.....Newmastersswimmer
I kind of like the rejuvenation idea. It kept Lazarus Long going.
I agree with this. People go nuts with all the supplements and vitamins. You should be getting what you need purely from diet, and if you aren't then alter your diet a little.
I eat a very healthy diet. When I added my supplements, I felt better, had more energy and didn't catch every virus that came my way like I did before I took them. They work for me....therefore I believe in them.
Unless you buy A LOT of fresh fruits and vegetables, only eat whole foods and cook from scratch you probably don't get all that you need from your diet.
