Anyone else watch The Biggest Loser?

LindsayNB, do you really thinking banning transfats in restaurants is going to stop all of those deaths? People will find it in other sources, or die from related heart type illnesses ... it's not like stop serving it in restaurants and all of a sudden there will be 50,000 less deaths ...

Yes banning TF will just drive it underground where it will become the new narcotic of choice. Our kids will be going to TF raves out in barns in the middle of nowhere. TF cartels wil spring up and become a major problem for the inner cities, and eventually, the rural areas. It will overload our already stretched law enforcement agencies, and worst of all: There will be even more lawyers (I mean is that possible?) clogging the judicial system with their cases related to TF addiction and crime. :2cents: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

How about how many of them have been told to make dietary changes and start exercising, stop smoking and/or drinking, but DECIDE not to ...

BTW - no trans fat in Crisco, just checked the label The use of the term premature makes this all very hard to understand. Let's take your average super-sized American, with the elastic jeans, sweatshirt and fanny pack, commonly found at suburban hobby stores. I'll give you that taking away their trans fat will completely eliminate the premature heart attack (although unlikely in all cases). The trouble is the diabetes, CHD, sedentary lifestyle, high bp, high cholesterol will kill them just the same, maybe in a year or two if not prematurely. I completely agree that removing trans fats is a useful thing to do. It should be part of an overall overhaul of the habits and MUST NOT be dicatated by some federal or state beurocrat.

Episode 4: Cruise has not returned. Some_girl is out on bail looking for a lawyer. After interviewing Gull and Lindsay, the FDA determines, after the usual agonizingly slow analysis, that TFs are a teensy bit bad for the heart even though they have the economic benefit of promoting purchases of fat-mobile SUVs. Geek sues the FDA under the First Amendment, alleging that the FDA ruling constitutes prohibited recipe selecting and that TFs have nothing to do with "public safety" and should therefore be unregulated. Lindsay files an amicus brief in the case questioning Geek's logic and citing quotes from Harvard geeks. Geek responds that the First Amendment imposes no obligation to say something meaningful. Meanwhile, NY diners are healthy, but Richjb has gone off the deep end. He discovers his kids at a TF rave and has a heart attack. An examination by Gull reveals no TFs in his system. To be continued ...

Well, if we want our kids to live a long healthy life, we can rip them out of all existing activities and have them play violin and swim. As a side benefit, we won't have to argue endlessly about which sport deserves the most "respect." It'll be swimming if you value a long life. (I guess we could still argue about which sport is best if we want to live a short risk-filled life full of MonkeyLaLas and TFs.) Do you think guitar would work instead of violin? Are fiddling and swimming the only two activities that stimulate that particular lymph system? It was not violin, it was the work of the conductor who moves his/her arms in a motion that stimulates the lymph system much the same way swimming does. Hey, any exercise is great I think. I am not trying to argue that swimming is best, I was just pointing out a factoid..or theoroid as it might be called.

To be completely honest I'm not really opposed to banning transfats ... as far as I am concerned take them out of everything ... I just think it's a slippery slope ... aspartame posioning has killed people, and lead to cancer in rats ... Guns are dangerous and kill (don't give me the guns don't kill people, people kill people crap either) ... I'm in favor of more strict hand gun laws, too ... The question is where does it end ... why were transfats put into food in the first place and how many deaths are we really preventing? I think we may delay them, but prevent them? I doubt it ...

It was not violin, it was the work of the conductor who moves his/her arms in a motion that stimulates the lymph system much the same way swimming does. Hey, any exercise is great I think. I am not trying to argue that swimming is best, I was just pointing out a factoid..or theoroid as it might be called. Sorry, I misread. Wasn't trying to argue. Was making a joke about the recent "Swimmers get no respect" thread. Well, maybe this means that other activities involving continuous overhead motions may promote longer life. Painters? Cheerleaders? Carpet weavers in Morocco?

What if I don't want to be forced to use your recipe? That's the point. You do what you want in your house and I'll do the same in mine. herein lies the issue of big bro stepping in to guide our population into making good choices. (as if they could) go to a small grocery/deli in a poor neighborhood and try to purchase a bag of chips sans TF's. can' do it. enter an upscale grocery store/coop/whole foods, and you won't find a bag of chips that contain TF's. where is the choice?

A study was conducted in the mid-20th century where the oldest people on earth were interviewed. It found that the following factors contributed to their longevity: None of the old people had any kind of arthritis - not one of them None of them ever took any food supplements of any kind All of the centenarians he met did some kind of physical activity everyday Most of them had a garden to grow some of their own foods Almost all of them were actively involved with their communities They ate whole, organically grown grains, seeds, legumes, berries, fruits and vegetables The small amounts of flesh products consumed were chemical-free They consumed some form of raw or clabbered milk product almost daily They expelled waste daily without signs of constipation or incontinence They were happy and content with their lot in life They were invariably compassionate, altruistic and spiritualNo sex, prescription drugs, alcohol, NSAIDs or TFs on that list. Hey If sex means 5-10years less at the wrinkly end, I'll go with sex...actually extra sex and less longevity...