Univ. of New Hampshire is getting rid of its women's rowing. The official line is that it has to get rid of some sports so that it can get into compliance with Title IX. Really is that it is doing a big budget cut. I wonder if this is the first women's team to be axed becasue of Title IX.
I don't understand how Title IX can possibly be used for what seems to me to be a really cheap blow to many girls. Rowing is a somewhat expensive sport, lots of coaches, lots of equipment.
I answered your question about the assumption. It is more highly published when a recruit struggles with passing the requirements than with the recruits that walk in here with high marks. As I pointed out, 2 of the basketball players in the past 2 years were exceptional people and students despite the tremendous pressure put on them. And of course out of all the football players there are, there are good and bad.
The team with the highest GPA at the U of I is women's swimming.
Other sports do not give full ride scholarships, the kids get partials, sometimes pretty good, last year a local swimmer got 70%, which is high.
And yes, there are plenty of students of the 40,000 who attend who are riding on mom and pops money and not working at all, but there are just as many students trying to make ends meet and have the pressures of the football players. These players get a scholarship that is worth a lot of money, up to 20,000 a year depending on their major. Most of them are very thankful to get it, and yes, the University own them and it is their job to play. But that education is worth a lot, and there are many kids who cannot get that education because they cannot afford it.
I don't hate the football and basketball players, but they do get preferential treatment at times, and there are plenty of other athletes who do not get that and plenty of regular students who don't get that. And regular students NEVER get the standards lowered for them.
Originally posted by dorothyrde
I don't hate the football and basketball players, but they do get preferential treatment at times, and there are plenty of other athletes who do not get that and plenty of regular students who don't get that. And regular students NEVER get the standards lowered for them.
Boo-hoo, life isn't fair. You don't like football and basketball players, time to get over that, and pretty quickly. Which sports do you think are floating the bill for the other non revenue sports? You wanna start picking on the fball and bball, better kiss most of your other sports goodbye. Who do you think was dancing in the pool on their noodles when Illinois played in the NCAA final game two years ago? That was a massive payday to your school and your conference (although not as much to the ACC).
When you use words like NEVER, you quickly lose credibility. "Regular" students have standards changed for them just as often as other students, you just don't read about it. Take a look at admission rates for student of alum and then of giving alum. It is easy to pick on bball and fball because they are high profile but, in football especially, there are up to 100 kids out there, the majority of who aren't on a full ride.
Our football team loses money, or at least the University publishes it that way. And no duh there was huge money brought in 2 years ago. And no duh basketball is still bringing tons of money in.
I said I don't hate the football and basketball players, just don't tell me they work harder than other kids who don't get a full ride or other athletes who attend the university. Being a Division 1 athlete in any sport is not easy.
There is tremendous value in those scholarships they get, they should work hard. No one from last years graduating football class got recruited to the pros, so they have to use their degrees to get on in life. Degrees they got because they could play football. Degrees other kids had to work just as hard to get without scholarships.
I am not going to feel sorry for them and "supposedly" the university does not give preferential treatment to alumni and staff, and that was directly out of the mouth of the administration on a tour I went on. I put that in quotes because my sis worked in admissions for a while and said coding is in the computer for facility and alum, and told me to make sure my son put it on his ap(my Dad is a professor emeritus). So I know what they "say" and what actually happens are two different things.
My son did not even choose Illinois, but ISU because ISU is a little smaller, and a better school for undergrad. He may come back for grad work, and yes, he will be working and making money to pay for it!
Originally posted by Blue Horn
Graduation rates are a joke for sports like football, basketball and baseball. Many players transfer to get more playing time at a smaller school, and many leave prior to graduation to play pro ball. The graduation rates for these sports are very skewed because of these two factors. Also, why do so many people believe that football and basketball players are stupid. While the standards are relaxed a lot at some schools, many schools still have strict requirements for getting into and staying in school. Also, playing football requires a ton of time and it is very hard to be a full time football player and make your grades. Yes, you have a lot of resources, but football players do not have it as easy as most would assume on this board. In fact, at many schools being a football player is MUCH harder than being a regular student or even playing another sport. The amount of time that football players spend training and watching film would suprise most if not all of you.
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Blue
Very few leave to play prosports. Most leave because they can't keep up. I have a very good friend who used to be the academic coordinator at George Washington. She worked os hard to get the players the training & to improve their skills.
Here at U of I, there is a real hidden profit from Football. One person (at least he used to) pays the salary of the football coach.
