Originally posted by Its a slow show
Let beat this to death!! Very simple would you prefer to swim in a pool considered fast or in one considered slow. Gee, I think I'll take the fast one. How about you??
Fast Pool-- if everything is the same surrounding the complex.
Don't forget that the Hall of Fame pool saw Natalie Coughlin become the first woman to break a minute in the 100 meter backstroke or that Mike Barrowman and Martin Zubero set world records in that pool as well.
So they were not concerned if it was "fast" or not. They went to swim the best they were capable of doing that day.
Originally posted by thewookiee
Don't forget that the Hall of Fame pool saw Natalie Coughlin become the first woman to break a minute in the 100 meter backstroke or that Mike Barrowman and Martin Zubero set world records in that pool as well.
So they were not concerned if it was "fast" or not. They went to swim the best they were capable of doing that day.
Nate Dusing set a US Open record in the 200 Meter Free of 1:47.02 in the same meet that World Records by Michael Phelps (4:11.09) and Eric Vendt (4:11.27) did in the 400 Meter IM. Natalie Coughlin also set the World Record breaking the 1 minute barrier. I remember David Edgar setting some records there in 1971 but I believe they were World bests and American Records because the 50 Free was not recognized by FINA yet.
Here is some more: ci.ftlaud.fl.us/.../records.htm
Let beat this to death!! Very simple would you prefer to swim in a pool considered fast or in one considered slow. Gee, I think I'll take the fast one. How about you??
To those of you who think it's all relative for everyone in the same pool and it doesn't matter....... Try taking down Paul Smith's record in the 50yd and 100yd free. I can assure you, that you will have a vastly different opinion about pool construction.
originally posted by GoodSmith
So I guess the faster pool this year will make your races very interesting then.......Is this your last SCY Nationals in the 40 - 44 year old agegroup?....If so, then I wish you the best of luck in breaking those records...I know you have come very close to those records the last couple of years.
Newmastersswimmer
Originally posted by TheGoodSmith
Haven't swum at Coral Springs, but it's got to be faster than Fort Lauderdale's museum of a facility.
John Smith
Mr Smith:
Perhaps you should have completed a bit of background research on the Fort Lauderdale Aquatic Complex prior to making the very erroneous statement, "Haven't swum at Coral Springs, but it's got to be faster than Fort Lauderdale's museum of a Facility."
Let me share with you the following information: the Facility's original 50-meter pool completed in 1965 has witnessed 10 world records whilst serving as host to hundreds of national and international events -- I believe that the only other outdoor facility in the country with more world records is Santa Clara. The (2) most recent world records were set during the USA Swimming/Phillips 66 Long Course National Championships in August of 2002 -- Natalie Coughlin was the first woman EVER to go under a minute in the Women's 100m Backstroke (59.58), as well as Michael Phelps world record swim in the Men's 400m Individual Medley (4:11.09). I personally witnessed both of these spectacular swims, and can say without a doubt that they are the two most exciting swims I have ever seen -- that includes the numerous world records I witnessed in person at the 2004 Olympic Trials in Long Beach.
Additionally, the Fort Lauderdale Aquatic Complex was rated as the number one competitive, outdoor swimming venue in the United States, by an overwhelming 33.8% in a USA Swimming poll conducted in July of 2002 -- with the runner-up, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona coming in at 12.9% amongst survey respondents.
I agree completely with you that the Facility is old, and needs MAJOR renovation in order to comply with current NGB pool specifications, etc -- I am very pleased to report that the City of Fort Lauderdale is currently in the process of forging the ground work for a completely new, state-of-the-art, world class aquatics venue.
Should you be interested in any further information regarding the Aquatic Complex, and it's history please feel free to visit the Facility's website at the following: www.fortlauderdale.gov/flac
Regards,
Jeff Stafford
Assistant Aquatic Complex Manager
Fort Lauderdale Aquatic Complex
Originally posted by Frank Thompson
Nate Dusing set a US Open record in the 200 Meter Free of 1:47.02 in the same meet that World Records by Michael Phelps (4:11.09) and Eric Vendt (4:11.27) did in the 400 Meter IM. Natalie Coughlin also set the World Record breaking the 1 minute barrier. I remember David Edgar setting some records there in 1971 but I believe they were World bests and American Records because the 50 Free was not recognized by FINA yet.
Here is some more: ci.ftlaud.fl.us/.../records.htm
Thanks Frank -- good to know there are still those that have a good grasp on the VERY rich swimming history that Fort Lauderdale has been so fortunate to have witnessed.
Regards,
- Jeff
You are correct. I'd rather be next to the beach swimming at Fort Lauderdale's archeological exhibit than indoors at Indianapolis's faster pool.
The question was if Coral Spring's pool was fast. It's got to be faster than Fort Lauderdale's pool.
To those of you who think it's all relative for everyone in the same pool and it doesn't matter....... Try taking down Paul Smith's record in the 50yd and 100yd free. I can assure you, that you will have a vastly different opinion about pool construction.
John Smith
A fast or slow pool means very little for those seeking only to compete with those on the deck that given day. If you are attempting to make it into a Top Ten list or break a record, it becomes much more important.
As an aside, I am not completely convinced that there is really that much difference in speed from one pool to the next. Has anybody ever compiled scientific evidence to prove such a difference actually exists?
I don't know about you all but I think I'll trade Coral Springs or Ft. Lauderdale (fast or slow) for Battle Creek, Michigan any day. While we have 2 great brand new high school facilities to swim in, somehow the drab grey winter sky just simply doesn't measure up to sunny Florida. Don't get me wrong, I love the change of seasons but January and February are cruel and unusual punishment. This has even been a warm winter by Michigan standards (43 straight days of above normal temps) but I still cheer whenever I get to see the sun, which is about 2 days of the month in Jan & Feb. So, I guess I'll just stick to my tried and true definition of a "fast" pool.... any pool where my feet are planted for each and every turn. And, yes, that means the same pool can be both fast and slow!
