What do you think of total immersion?

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I just got Total immersion book yesterday. Have read part 1 of the book and just started doing the drills today. It seems an excallent way to swim and definatly will improve my f/s. But i'm a bit weary because it's so comercail. so my question is, Is Total immersion as good a way to swim as it makes out? or is it the best way to learn how to swim? Are there better books out there that teach you how to swim well(properly)? Hope that makes sense Swifty
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    Former Member over 18 years ago
    Originally posted by Frank Thompson What is the point to keep on hammering this? ... The reason I brought the link stories about Adrienne Binder and Joe Novak in this discussion was that Craig III and Gull wanted to know if there were elite swimmers using these TI methods to valid there training philosophy and swimming success. ... My point is that Joe Novak is not elite enough to make him a commercial that validates Total Immersion. Many swimmers at N.C.A.A. in 2005 went 41.xx seconds per 100. Novak's 44 in the 100 free would barely qualify for N.C.A.A. Division I. Zillions of swimmers are coached to be faster than Novak's 44, with methods contrary to Total Immersion. One 41.xx per 100 free is Fred Bousquet -of the 18.74 per 50 free fame- coached differently than Total Immersion by David Marsh at Auburn. If Novak's 44 per 100 free is Total Immersion's publicity for revolutionary coaching, then many faster than him who are coached in opposition to Total Immersion they are advertising better and more revolutionary coaching than Total Immersion. Below N.C.A.A., at high school level in 2005, 16-year old Alex. Forbes from Lyman in Florida went 20.22 in 50 free and 44.42 in 100 free. 17-year old and yet to fully develop physically Alex Righi from Brophy Prep in Arizona under coach Jon Kopas, swam in 2005 a 50 in 20.31 and a 100 in 44.76. What about 15 year old Jake Allen from Davis High School in California, and his 20.64 in 50 yards free? Isn't there a whole world out there that is more revolutionary than Total Immersion and opposite to Total Immersion? It seems to me it is. And is better to learn from the world of best results.
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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 18 years ago
    Originally posted by Frank Thompson What is the point to keep on hammering this? ... The reason I brought the link stories about Adrienne Binder and Joe Novak in this discussion was that Craig III and Gull wanted to know if there were elite swimmers using these TI methods to valid there training philosophy and swimming success. ... My point is that Joe Novak is not elite enough to make him a commercial that validates Total Immersion. Many swimmers at N.C.A.A. in 2005 went 41.xx seconds per 100. Novak's 44 in the 100 free would barely qualify for N.C.A.A. Division I. Zillions of swimmers are coached to be faster than Novak's 44, with methods contrary to Total Immersion. One 41.xx per 100 free is Fred Bousquet -of the 18.74 per 50 free fame- coached differently than Total Immersion by David Marsh at Auburn. If Novak's 44 per 100 free is Total Immersion's publicity for revolutionary coaching, then many faster than him who are coached in opposition to Total Immersion they are advertising better and more revolutionary coaching than Total Immersion. Below N.C.A.A., at high school level in 2005, 16-year old Alex. Forbes from Lyman in Florida went 20.22 in 50 free and 44.42 in 100 free. 17-year old and yet to fully develop physically Alex Righi from Brophy Prep in Arizona under coach Jon Kopas, swam in 2005 a 50 in 20.31 and a 100 in 44.76. What about 15 year old Jake Allen from Davis High School in California, and his 20.64 in 50 yards free? Isn't there a whole world out there that is more revolutionary than Total Immersion and opposite to Total Immersion? It seems to me it is. And is better to learn from the world of best results.
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