I used to smoke and had a unique way of quitting. I was ten years old and used to buy cigs and smoke about a pack a day... big shot George. I actually quit smoking after my mother caught my brother smoking when I was was 10 and a half.
Originally posted by laineybug
Gull, that is "medical god" No caps
Yes there is some generalization, but as I said before, I've talked to a lot of women who have had the same experience and they feel the same way I do... and my experience isn't limited to one doctor, once... it is many doctors over many years. I'm sure there are caring doctors out there, but I've only found ONE in the past 25 years that was.
What exactly is it you are wanting a doctor to do for you after ruling in or out medical issues? Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes.
Of course, gull80 is going to need psychatric care after I send his scrawny, new Speedo FSII back side limping home to The Bern in January.
Originally posted by laineybug
Accept responsibility is just another way of saying your lazy and stupid.
You continue to criticize and entire profession based solely on your experiences in a small town. Since that is ok, my wife went to one doctor and got the issue resolved. My guess is that somewhere in between is where the reality is. And, I believe thyroid medication is one of the most prescribed medications in the US, right after prozac, viagra and gull80's favorite, lipitor (figures totally fabricated but I have heard that thyroid med is a big seller). So, some doctors outside of S. Georgia are getting it right.
It's too bad I can now tell my kids they can sit on their duffs and not study since that is the new defnintion of taking responsibility.
Gull, that is "medical god" No caps
Yes there is some generalization, but as I said before, I've talked to a lot of women who have had the same experience and they feel the same way I do... and my experience isn't limited to one doctor, once... it is many doctors over many years. I'm sure there are caring doctors out there, but I've only found ONE in the past 25 years that was.
I care.
Seriously, I'm not convinced that obesity is always self-inflicted. Clearly genetics plays a role, and there are very likely other factors yet to be discovered.
Originally posted by laineybug
You have to sign a statement you haven't smoked in the last 12 months. If you have there is a hefty smoker's surcharge. And, if you insure any of your dependents, they fall under the same regs. You sign a statement for each one saying they haven't smoked, if they have you pay a surcharge for each dependent that smokes. AND if you are caught not telling the truth you stand to lose your insurance.
This is a good idea as it makes people accountable for their health care costs, to a certain degree. I'd also advocate doing this for obese folks.
Accept responsibility? What do you think going to doctor after doctor for years asking them to help would be called? What do you think keeping food logs for years would be called? What do you think walking about an hour every morning (depending on when I get up) and and swimming 90 minutes every afternoon is called?
Now what would you call it, if a patient's tests clearly show a need for a certain drug and it isn't prescribed? For years, it isn't prescribed? What would you call it when a doctor questions your food log--the insuation being that I wasn't telling the truth about what I was eating?
Accept responsibility is just another way of saying your lazy and stupid.
Lainey
Originally posted by laineybug
...that if a person was more that 30? pounds overweight that there was a huge probablility that there was a medical condition impacting their weight. And the sad thing is that most doctors are biased against overweight individuals in the same way you are.
Let me make sure I understand, some new and mystical medical affliction has suddently descended on mostly Americans in the past 30 years but not on other industrialized countries. We've done a heck of a job quarantining the fat epidemic to just our borders.
There are certainly those who are obese due to medical conditions but not the 33% of tubby Americans have this. I do not understand why we are allowed to discriminate against smokers on medical policies but not against fat people? Both are (mostly) self induced conditions with equally bad medical consequences. What about a fat smoker?
My wife and my best friend's wife are on thyroid medication but they were never fat. You shouldn't generalize based on soley your experiences.
Originally posted by newmastersswimmer
So I for one think that the tobacco industry should pay much (if not all) of the extra insurance premiums for most of these smokers.....
Should McDonald's or Frito-Lays pay the rest?
Oh Geek, you assumed that I've lived in S. GA all those years! It was someone in S. GA, that finally got it right, but I've seen docs from Athens to Atlanta to Frankfurt, Germany.
Just to let (you all my Georgian accent) know because of my age and pills I take, I have to pay $30. a day to travel in the USA and keep my Canadian health insurance care coverage. or 3000 a year for me and $675. a year for my wife she takes no pills.
