I spawn this thread off the "illegal drugs" thread because this is not really a discussion on illegal drugs in masters meet.
To be honest to you guys, the thread really broke my heart. I'm a newbie in masters swimming and I've been working my a** off to improve my strokes and time, so that I can eventually win something in a masters swim meet. I will never ever cheat, it's against my principle.
Well ... if people are cheating in masters meet, then I start to wonder what's the point of working so hard on improving my stroke and time. Swimming is not my career, I love doing it and it's a healthy hobby for me. What's the point of entering a master's swim meet? Isn't it stupid to be so hard headed? Maybe you guys can give me some reasons why I should continue to work hard and having "winning a masters swim meet" as a goal.
Thank You!
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Cheaters nerver win....they may come in first....BUT, that does not make them winners!
Originally posted by Karen Duggan
I, for one, am in trouble if we're ever tested and Advil is banned! I think I'm becoming a junkie! (But it makes my owies feel better!)
Aleve (Naprosyn) is definitely a better choice (500 mg twice daily).
Craig,
I'll give it a try.
Question, for you Cardiologist, although you might be more able to answer as a swimmer! What do you do for bicep tendonitis, or anyone who has had this?
I've never had swimming related shoulder/arm injuries and this isn't either, but I can't swim because of it. I haven't been to the doctor. My husband (Mr. MS in Exercise Phys.) thinks it's bicep tendonitis- it's at the top of my arm, on the outside, and hurts like a you-know-what I lift it. I know it's not bursitis, I've had that. Our assumption is that it's from lifting little ones all the time (too bad I love them so much!).
I've iced it and Advil'd it; got in the other night and was SO frustrated- I can't lift my arm for overhead recovery in free, NOOOO backstroke (extremely big owies), no insweep motion for breaststroke (OWWWWWW!) and I'm so smart I didn't even try fly!
Help anyone?
Thanks.
the point is
you should work hard to be fit, happy, and healthy
how you perform compared to others is irrevlevant
all that matters is how you are compared to how you used to be
ande
Originally posted by penguin4501
I spawn this thread off the "illegal drugs" thread because this is not really a discussion on illegal drugs in masters meet.
To be honest to you guys, the thread really broke my heart. I'm a newbie in masters swimming and I've been working my a** off to improve my strokes and time, so that I can eventually win something in a masters swim meet. I will never ever cheat, it's against my principle.
Well ... if people are cheating in masters meet, then I start to wonder what's the point of working so hard on improving my stroke and time. Swimming is not my career, I love doing it and it's a healthy hobby for me. What's the point of entering a master's swim meet? Isn't it stupid to be so hard headed? Maybe you guys can give me some reasons why I should continue to work hard and having "winning a masters swim meet" as a goal.
Thank You!
Originally posted by Peter Cruise
What concerns me about this discussion is that while I don't doubt that there is some drug 'cheating' in Masters, I feel that it is a small minority who will reap their own rewards in possible side effects in later years; the rest of us are far too straight & respectful of our bodies to partake of such experimentation. I do think any potential major sponsor of US Masters Swimming might well misinterpret the results of GoodSmiths's poll & not wish to be associated with such behavior.
Well, John asked a pretty loaded question! In general, the answer to the question "Do you think that there are any participants in Masters Swimming that . . ." is "yes" regardless of what comes next.
Bob
Karen- as I've posted elsewhere, where there is such pain with a belief that usage hasn't been extreme enough to have caused such pain, one could suspect cervical disc impingement against the nerves that go from spinal cord down arms. From personal experience, the pain can be excruciating & surface exactly in strokes as mentioned. Causes can be physical injury, herniation and degeneration. Have it looked at by someone who knows their stuff.
Thanks for all your talks and advices. I'll make sure my goals are based on my own performance.
I've never involved in any sports seriously before swimming, let alone competing. When I picked up swimming a year ago I expected my health to improve, but I never expected it to improve my "goal setting skills".
Life is an adventure aha, so glad I joined masters.
I agree with your description of tell-tales & add: a certain fullness under the jawline, hard to describe, but distinctive & as well, behavioral signs- arrogance, intolerance, regarding others as 'lesser beings'. Yes, I know, the latter can just come naturally to some,....
Are you describing anybody we know? Sounds like a "Smith" (or two) to me.
Nah, c'mon now, I'm just kidding!
