Dual Affiliation

originally posted by BillS Aren't you the crazy old dude who has been swimming something like 10,000 meters a day in a quixotic quest to defeat some Texan somewhere in something? For beer? Well actually that is one way to put I guess....so yaeh that's me alright.....only it's more like 7,500 meters a day now b/c I stopped the 2 a days....10,000 + meters a day was starting to tear my body down a little too much.....it is for beer though right?....so is it really all that crazy then? Newmastersswimmer

originally posted by Jeff Commings Jim, the meet organizers should be able to move you to the correct heat. It's really not that difficult, unless there are a lot of entries to move around. And if they've already printed the heat sheets it makes it more difficult (though they could reprint a "reseed" page). It's their fault, not yours. From what my coach said the other day, the meet organizers can't reseed all of us (we are a small team but every one of us is seeded incorrectly as way too fast).....I think I'm just stuck with it the way it is.....actually I think it's kinda funny though....obviously getting smoked and humiliated isn't such a big deal for me....I'm a glutton for that kinda punishment....just look at the rediculuos challenges I've already made with very fast swimmers on this forum...LOL!!....Several of the younger swimmers on the team (and our 32 year old coach) might not have such thick skin about it though....The coach is entered in the 50 free with a 20.7 when he will swim at best a 23.5.....he's actually thinking of pulling out of his events now to save himself the embarressment....I tried to talk him out of it by basically saying who gives a #### anyway.....but his ego is a little more fragile than mine I guess? Newmastersswimmer

It you enter a dually sanctioned meet, if you are a member of USMS the times will count towards USMS recognition. USA-Swimming will have to decide if they will accept the results. We have specified that someone with dual membership will have to decide which meet you are entering. (There are really two meets taking place simultaneously with, as I like to describe it, dynamically assigned lanes.) If USA-Swimming is going to recognize the time, then obviously you need to be a member of USA-Swimming. My advise for those looking to count a swim in both organizations is to enter the USA-Swimming portion. That way we can control what is going on with the results and we are more accustomed to dealing with these sorts of results. WRT to FINA records, then you probably want to enter the USMS meet and possibly forgo the USA-Swimming recognition.

BillS, I would definitely be up for grabbing a few beers sometime.....Maybe we will run into one another at a Nationals sometime down the road? I don't think I will be traveling up to the Pacific Northwest anytime soon though. As far as just getting back into swimming at the age of 44......I think it will just take a little while before you work your way back into decent shape again......I've had a similar experience last year when I was just starting back after an 18 year layoff. I am 41 now and into my second year of Masters swimming and I can say that there seems to be a major difference between the first year back and the second year back.....When I first started back (about 18 months ago) I couldn't hardly swim a 50 free in under 45 seconds....and I couldn't swim 500 yards straight without stopping along the way to hug the wall and pant for a couple of minutes before I could continue on.....I didn't just jump directly from that to swimming 7 - 10 thousand meters a day ....or anything like that....I eventually worked up to about 3000 - 4000 meter workouts at a time after 6 to 8 months of swimming again.....and even then, I couldn't maintain any kind of fast interval training at all....In fact I'm still far from making really fast interval sets....Swimming with the teenagers on our agegroup team has forced me to make drastic improvements in that area though .....and so I am still slowly getting there (I hope?!). Just keep plugging away and you will be suprised this time next year at how far you've come! Newmastersswimmer p.s. Good Luck at your meet....The 200 *** won't be as bad as you think I bet.

only it's more like 7,500 meters a day now b/c I stopped the 2 a days....10,000 + meters a day was starting to tear my body down a little too much I'd been meaning to ask you about how your body has held up, then I saw you had a blog and figured I'd find the answer there, then I saw someone said you hadn't updated your blog for a while so I didn't go there, etc. etc. etc. At 44 and back into swimming for just under a year, my body is occasionally letting me know that it has had enough at nowhere near the yardage you're doing. I can't remember exactly how old you are, but I consider myself an old dude, and my wife thinks I'm crazy for getting in the water at 6 am. I think your quest is cool, whether quixotic or not. No bet involving beer is crazy in my world. If you win, you get beer. If you lose, you need to buy beer for the winner anyway, so you might as well pick up a little for yourself to ease the pain. Everyone's a winner in the ensuing beerfest. If you are ever out this way, I bet you can get me to buy you a beer or seven by introducing yourself as the crazy old dude on the quixotic quest. I guessed, conservatively, I thought, at my seed times for my first meet this weekend. Along with several other events, I signed up for the 200 ***. After I told a teammate, and she said "The 200???!!!" with a look that told me she thinks I'm certifiable, I thought I'd do one in practice just to verify that my incredfibly conservative guessed time was accurate. Without getting into the humiliating details of actual time vs. seed time, let's just say that I now will consider completing that event a personal victory. I considered swimming sidestroke for at least the first 100, but read the rule and realized that I will be DQ'd. So I'll hum a mantra of "Go slow, breathe, go slow, breathe . . . " and hope to hold off the piano until the last 25 or so. My only hope is that the people in charge looked at my seed times, my checked "first meet" box, and my scrawled message about my times being guesses, and, laughing uncontrollably, seeded me where I belong. I plan on treating my ego to as many cold ones as it needs to recover after the meet.

Originally posted by newmastersswimmer Well guys I'm in for some serious embarressment at my upcoming agegroup swim meet this weekend. Somehow when our coach entered our times for our events the computer recorded them as short course meter times instead of short course yard times....then the computer automatically converted them into yard times...(when they were already yard times!).... I have been the computer chair at many Age group Invitational meets, to correct your times and reseed your events is very easy to do..I have even reseeded an event while the meet was going on.....I have been at some meets where the host team is reluctant to reseed because the heet sheets sold would not match up....but with scratches, no shows etc they are rarely perfect anyway... you might want to ask them again....anyway, good luck, one of these days I will work up the courage to do the same, now that I have lost 70 pounds the day is getting closer :)

Thanks Hoosier for the information......We all ended up swimming with our inflated times and inflated seedings though....We actually didn't get nearly as embarressed as we thought since most of the other swimmers with fast seeding times didn't come close to the seeding times either....and the meet wasn't as big as we thought it was going to be either...I still got smoked pretty bad by a couple of young swimmers in a couple of my heats though. Good Luck with your swimming career and Congrats on the weight loss! I also lossed a lot of weight last year (my first year back into swimming after 18 years).....I lost 85 pounds last year! I am a little surprised that 2 people actually entered "Who Cares" in the Poll.....I put that choice in there as a joke and I guess a couple of swimmers either responded that way as a joke too or they really find this thread topic very uninteresting? Newmastersswimmer

Now there are three. originally posted by Geochuck Oh but I forgot to mention that the opinions of Canadian posters don't really count for anything on this poll....sorry George! Newmastersswimmer

Like in the movie Blue Streak, Martin Lawrence was a Mexican Federally, I am a partime Mexican, does this allow me to vote.

Now there are three.