Did anyone see the new Gary Hall, Jr Barbarsol commerical. It is about time swimmers get some good endorsements besides Speedo and the other swimming apparel companies. Madison Ave has really come a long way in the last few years. You would never see a swimmer in a commerical a year after the Olympics before. It is nice to know that all the endorsements aren't going to Phelps even though the boy more than deserves whatever endorsements he get. I mean Phelps is out of this world.
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Matt,
The schools are amazingly similar. I will never forget sitting in that stadium watching the greastest game I have ever seen. (That was my 2nd Rose Bowl, the first was when we beat WSU for the Nat'l Champ in 97.) The fact that the fans on both sides were extremely knowledgable about the game and the history of college football only made it that much better. Also, the fact that UM fans did not feel the need to do the upside down horns sign, just shows the immense pride and confidence of UM alums as opposed to so many other fan bases.
Hook'em
Blue
I wondered how long it would take for this thread, previously interesting, to be hijacked. Quicker than imagined. I did think Gull's comments were good and Tom's follow up equally insightful. Now the thread will be ruined.
Take a look at the morning swims for the 4 x 100 relay at Athens.
www.athens2004.com/.../results
WOODWARD Gabe 0.70 23.62 49.93 (5) 49.93
DUSING Nate 0.14 23.12 49.01 (4) 1:38.94
WALKER Neil 0.19 22.57 48.16 (2) 2:27.10
HALL Gary 0.08 22.91 48.73 (2) 3:15.83
Note: Walker decidedly outsplit Hall and made the so called "unrealistic" and "too high" cut by Eddie Reese.
Remember, the coaching staff discusses the relay options. This is not something you put out for a vote by the swimmers. Neither Gary or any other swimmer get to review and approve the decision by the coaching staff.
Lastly, I can assure you that you are grossly in error about Eddie Reese and your opinion that he is naive and unprofessional.
John Smith
Originally posted by SwiminONandON
In Phelps' defense the kid is a helluva swimmer and was having a fantastic week. I would have put him on the relay, too. If I remember correctly Gary had the third fastest 100 time in prelims, morning swimmer or not he seemed off his game in the 100 in Athens.
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Originally posted by TheGoodSmith
Take a look at the morning swims for the 4 x 100 relay at Athens.
www.athens2004.com/.../results
WOODWARD Gabe 0.70 23.62 49.93 (5) 49.93
DUSING Nate 0.14 23.12 49.01 (4) 1:38.94
WALKER Neil 0.19 22.57 48.16 (2) 2:27.10
HALL Gary 0.08 22.91 48.73 (2) 3:15.83
Note: Walker decidedly outsplit Hall and made the so called "unrealistic" and "too high" cut by Eddie Reese.
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Lastly, I can assure you that you are grossly in error about Eddie Reese and your opinion that he is naive and unprofessional.
John Smith
Wrong.
In the preliminary, Gary came in third, behind Lezak and Walker.
What does this tell for the night swim?
Gary and the peaking Walker are in.
Peaking Lezak is in.
Sick Crocker is out.
Phelps is in.
Any way you look at this, as long as professional criteria is in, Gary is in.
Originally posted by TheGoodSmith
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Remember, the coaching staff discusses the relay options. This is not something you put out for a vote by the swimmers. Neither Gary or any other swimmer get to review and approve the decision by the coaching staff.
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John Smith
That's where a coach is good or bad:
when communication and understanding is achieved or not achieved with the actual fighters in the arena.
Reese is just an armchair hero here.
A bureaucrat.
Who blew it.
For YOU ....OF ALL PEOPLE.... to call Coach Reese a loser.....
This man has more class, knowledge of swimming, world class swimmers that he coached..... then you will know in ten of your deluded life times.....What planet are you on?
Any way you cut it, Gary is not on the relay at night.
Walker outsplit him with a 48.1.... Lezak and Crocker own 2 spots because they represent the US in the 100 free individual event. Phelps is undeniably more capable and having a great meet and gets a spot.
Looks pretty cut and dry to me.
John Smith
John,
you didn't read carefully.
Walker is in.
Lezak is in.
Gary is in.
Phelps is in.
Sick Crocker is out.
Even stretched to more extreme than Gary's times, in the past, in women, Jenny Thompson was in the 4x200 free finals, even though she didn't compete at Trials in the 200 free, and Jenny displaced a Trials qualifier.
Walker, Lezak, Gary, Phelps in, that's obvious before the start of the race.
Originally posted by Tom Ellison
For YOU ....OF ALL PEOPLE.... to call Coach Reese a loser.....
This man has more class, knowledge of swimming, world class swimmers that he coached..... then you will know in ten of your deluded life times.....What planet are you on?
You know what?
I post under my real name.
Times and swimmers that you haven't learned about.
In none of your posts in four years.
And Ellison is not your name.
Under your real name you are even not listed in the U.S.M.S. database as a competitor in 2005.
Taking Ian out of the relay poses a bigger concern and deviation from the norm as the 2 individual 100 freestylers almost always swim on the relay for finals.
Certainly, if Eddie or any of the coaches new that Ian was performing that poorly they wouldn't have put him on the relay. Ian is a great swimmer with a great tradition of performing well on relays in tight spots. To go out on a limb and remove him from the relay before his first events unfolded would be a hell of a risk and a slap in the face to the normal rules of who gets on the relay.
Certainly, the relay would have been faster if Gary swam in Ian's spot.... no one denies this now ..... but no one had a crystal ball for that situation.
John Smith
