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Would anything in these wake-up pills be considered banned?

Geochuck, Won't matter if they're illegal if you don't get caught or convicted...... isn't that what you're saying? John Smith

Nah, I'm saying I'll give you my address if they aren't illegal .. hell I'll give you my address if they are ;)

TheGoodSmith Boy you believe everything cops say, I was a cop and I know anything goes so you can get a conviction. I still believe OJ innocent and somone slipped drugs in Ben Johnson water even though he admitted taking them. Flo Jo and Carl Lewis never took steroids they said they did not. Lance Armstrong never took steroids, he said so.

WB you make a strong point. When Phelps was arrested he made the statement: “I was taught to take full responsibility for my actions” and he did. If swimming is ever going to gain mass appeal in the public eye, the swimmers and swim community will have to act with class, set and expect a high standard of behavior. Of course eliminates most Masters Swimmers today. Scream, fight, what have you behind closed doors, when you walk out you represent your nation, sport as well as yourself leave the battle behind closed doors. After all you choose to be there and play by the rules as written. Don’t like the rules work to change them, if you choose disobedience be prepared to suffer the consequences. Gary seems to want it both ways, and those who defend his choices allow it to continue. He plays at being a boxer, but the greatest boxer of our time took a stand and suffered much more than not being on a relay he didn’t qualify for. Maybe Gary can look to some of the class boxers of the past and use them as his role models. No the denying the talent and effective training of Gary Hall for the 50. Just questioning the way the he handles himself.

Is it possible that he was not smoking pot, just around those smoking, similar to the Canadian snow boarder. At the winter Olympics. A snow boarder around pot? no way dude

If swimmers are to gain mass appeal they have to take drugs like those used by baseball players, football players and basketball players. Steroids, heroin, cocaine and drink lots of beer. Go to rehab and do it all over again.

does marijuana enhance performance? posted by The Razz That's a very good question actually....I know that fishgrrl already said she didn't see how it could.......but I once knew a few people way back (other people now...cmmon!!) who would argue that point with Kari.....and I feel that this is a relevant side topic here...b/c if Insulin is a relevant topic....then why isn't pot?....I mean Gary (who is the center of the thread right) has been busted for pot smoking by Fina (and punished)....He chose to smoke Pot....He is taking insulin b/c he has too (for now anyways b/c he hasn't had any of the fancy medical procedures that would change that need for insulin as of yet). ...So how could the possible advantages assciated to Pot usage be any more or less relevant in this thread than that of insulin? Personally, I think (from hearing what others have said "only" now)...that pot smoking might be able to enhance one's ability in a distance swimming event (especially something like a 5 K open water swim for example)...b/c your mind is put in a state to ignore pain after smoking a sufficient amount of pot....and being stoned can help to put someone in a trance like (rhythmic) state which could also be advantageous for distance swimming (granted Gary is definitely not a distance swimmer though)....although you can't organize a grocery list when stoned,..."Supposedly" one can really focus on something repetitive and simple....like maintaining a constant efficient distance stroke....I can't verify this (or refute it)....but I accept that it is possible that pot smoking "could" provide certain advantages in certain situations.....that's all. Newmastersswimmer

Originally posted by gull80 I'd consider it fortunate that you're a Type II. Type I diabetics (like Gary Hall) have a much higher risk of retinopathy (leading to blindness), nephropathy (leading to renal failure), peripheral vascular disease (leading to amputations), and premature heart disease. gull: Give me a break! Don't you realize these aren't potential complications of diabetes, they are added benefits of getting to take the wildly popular performance enhancing drug insulin. GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

I vaguely remember seeing a 20/20 type tv show on steriods and track. They were interviewing Victor Conte who, supposedly designed the doping program for Marion Jones. I think the regimin was a cocktail of an anabolic steroid, HGH, and i think insulin may have been the list too www.sfgate.com/.../article.cgi ande