!NSR! Setting up a board

I don't get it. It seems that msgrupp's main gripe about ande is he posts too much. I certainly don't read everything he posts, but I don't begrudge him his right to post. For the most part his posts ARE about swimming. In my opinion the more active a board is, the better. In the grand scheme of things a few hundred--heck a few thousand--lines of text isn't going to bring the server to it's knees.

Dear Ms Grupp, I'm just a person. That doesn't make me better than anyone. It's true as as far training goes, there are many ways to train. It's true that injuries are serious business and people need to be very careful to avoid them. Swimmers can seriously injure themselves;especially when doing new things. It's true once a swimmer has an injury they need to work with their doctors, physical trainers, and coaches to adjust their training methods accordingly. Each of us trains with what fits our schedules. I have the chance to train Mon - Fri 6:30 am to 8:00. It doesn't always work out. When do you train? you wrote: "you'll (probably find) that a majority of the swimmers older than you (since the Sr Games START at age 50)---are doing better than you are." ~~~> MS Grupp, you're poorly informed in this area. It's true there are a few swimmers over 50 who swim faster times in events I don't train for, focus on, or compete in, but if you check the 200 IM, SCY, SCM, and LCM you'll find there aren't any swimmers 50 or over who can swim the times I recently swam. I also believe that people who read my work outs KNOW they need to modify distances and intervals according to what they can handle. People know if they want to increase their training they need to work up to it. I think the USMS webhost has plenty of storage and a single thread wouldn't take up much room. Plus you mentioned "Not to use someone else's (paid for) space" Aren't we all dues paying masters swimmers? I wish you well. Ande Originally posted by msgrupp name-dropping is never popular. Just because you're swimming at UT doesn't make you a better swimmer. This board is supposed to serve all age groups in the masters range. What a 40-44 year old male is doing isn't much help to a 50-54 year old FEMALE. It doesn't impress me that you're a ranked swimmer. Your methods of training don't have to be the methods used by everyone. Everyone is different. Personally, I'm swimming with a number of injuries that have required surgery. Obviously I'm not going to be able to put in anything close to what you're doing in a week. Many of us have LIVES outside of swimming and can't devote hours a week to the pool. I've swum with ranked swimmers before. Somehow, if you check the times that will be posted on the Senior Games here in Pittsburgh--you'll (probably find) that a majority of the swimmers older than you (since the Sr Games START at age 50)---are doing better than you are. It's been proven that yardage doesn't make the better swimmer--technique does. Yes, coaching is nice but not everyone can afford to swim at a coached session OR has access to coaches. Just because you're posting what YOU"RE doing in a workout doesn't make it right for the rest of the swimming population. In fact, for some swimmers, it could be very harmful to try to "compete" in your workouts. When I boosted my mileage a few summers ago---I've now had 6 surgeries to fix that problem. I'm pleased that I'm even able to swim after 6 shoulder surgeries, a knee surgery, major back surgery, hand/wrist surgery, asthma and other muscle problems that are currently going (including *** stroker's knee). Yeah--I'm not going to compete with a MALE that's 10 years younger than I am but neither do I believe that having a whole posting about an individual's daily training pattern is needed. That's why BLOGS were started. To allow individuals the freedom to have their OWN place to post daily musings and opinions. Not to use someone else's (paid for) space for their own private musings.

Dear Heidi and other USMS discussion forum friends, thank you for your kind words about Ande's Blog, Swim Faster Faster and Ask Ande. I appreciate it ande Originally posted by Heidi I am new to swimming and this site and I have to say, Ande's blog, tips, and advice are all very helpful to me and I like to read them. I don't get it, it's very easy to just not click on a thread if you don't like it.

thank you tom I appreciate your words Ande just a reminder USMSNSR at yahoogroups is now available for off topic off color discussions for masters swimming board members anything that could potentially get banned HERE, plus it will take a little work off the moderators they'll have less to skim and may get fewer complaints It's now members only so if you want to participate here's the info how USMS NSR at yahoogroups.com to find it drop by sports.groups.yahoo.com/.../ to join USMSNSR SEND an EMPTY email to USMSNSR-subscribe@yahoogroups.com then just confirm when you get that email to QUIT send an EMPTY email to USMSNSR-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com I recommend once you JOIN you EDIT your membership so you get a daily digest or or NO EMAIL in the event that the site becomes active if you get no EMAIL you can check it on the web any one has any questions Email me at AndeRasmussen@aol.com once you join you can post from the the WEB or send an email to USMSNSR@yahoogroups.com Ande Originally posted by Tom Ellison Ande: Please, by all means continue to post your thoughts, input, workouts etc.... Over the years Msgruup has been decent....and....positive.....and he is intitled to his opinion....Having said that, I do not agree with his posts on this subject....and...that is why the make Buicks and Chevs..... My suggestion is that everyone be nice, decent and POSITIVE in what they hope to accomplish here.... I for one..(ok, three... with Mr. Moose, Ralph & Tom) see Ande's posts as nothing but positive....PLease continue Ande..... Kindest regards, Tom Ellison

Hi! Just want to say that I find Ande's threads extremely useful! I am also older, and um, may I say "more femminine" than he is, but that doesn't mean I can't learn from his advice and experience. As others have said, we all can calibrate his workouts to our own capabilities and goals. Keep up the great work Ande!! Mary PS: Every day when I wake up I say to myself, "Mary, remember to remain teachable (or coachable) today!" I've learned a lot from Ande, and it's exciting!

thank you mary, it's very kind of you to write those words I'm happy my posts have helped you. Ande Originally posted by Maryyyyyy Hi! Just want to say that I find Ande's threads extremely useful! I am also older, and um, may I say "more femminine" than he is, but that doesn't mean I can't learn from his advice and experience. As others have said, we all can calibrate his workouts to our own capabilities and goals. Keep up the great work Ande!! Mary PS: Every day when I wake up I say to myself, "Mary, remember to remain teachable (or coachable) today!" I've learned a lot from Ande, and it's exciting!

I for one feel that Ande should be dragged into the town square and publicly flogged.....Not for his threads though...they are very nice and helpful......the reason is just b/c he is a former UT swimmer and member of the ever Evil "GoodSmith posse".....(and the fact that all the women around here apparently worship the UT Male swimmers). Newmastersswimmer

just a reminder for your NON SWIMMING RELATED POSTS there's USMSNSR at yahoogroups is now available to find it drop by: sports.groups.yahoo.com/.../ to join USMSNSR SEND an EMPTY email to USMSNSR-subscribe@yahoogroups.com I recommend once you JOIN USMSNSR EDIT your membership so you get a daily digest or or NO EMAIL you can check it on the web sports.groups.yahoo.com/.../ If any one has any questions you can email me at AndeRasmussen@aol.com once you join you can post from the USMSNSR site or send an email to USMSNSR@yahoogroups.com Ande

Originally posted by SwiminONandON That's one smokin' hot math department ;) ... There is one good looking one from UT though ... I must be missing something or maybe I didn't click on enough names...

you asked:" In that photo of the 1981 team, Which one is you? which one is the goodsmith?" www.texassports.com/index.php that is the 1981 team, it contains everyone, some of the photos are just the championship squads. people who went to the NCAA meet. I'm not in that photo. I was a senior in high school at the time. I started attending UT September 1981. john "good" smith is the blonde guy in the center of the back row. he is the seventh person in the back row, counting left to right Ande