I was wondering what happens if in semi-finals two people show the same result which would place them in the 8th position?obviously only one can go on to the finals, but how is it decided who gets to go and who is out?
Assume NCAA rules are similar to USA-S rules “This swim-off may be held at any time set by the Referee, but not more than 45 minutes after the last heat of any event in which any one of these swimmers is competing in that session.”
Originally posted by Rob Copeland
At the Eastern’s (college) meet yesterday there was a tie for 25th place (first alternate) in the 500 free at 4:37.71. In the swim-off at the end of prelims Andrew Thorn of Navy beat out Kent Garber of Yale 4:37.04 to 4:38.12.
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Wow, the kid swam faster at the swim-off.I wonder how much rest they got...As a matter of fact is it regulated how much time one can rest between the tie race and the swim-off?
And back to the original question…
At the Eastern’s (college) meet yesterday there was a tie for 25th place (first alternate) in the 500 free at 4:37.71. In the swim-off at the end of prelims Andrew Thorn of Navy beat out Kent Garber of Yale 4:37.04 to 4:38.12.
As a foot note, the top 24 all returned for finals, so neither Andrew or Kent made it back to the bonus heat of the finals.
I was at a meet where the tie was a 200 fly and the swim off resulted in a tie also. So there was another swim off. Swimming that once would be enough for me.
Originally posted by Rob Copeland
Assume NCAA rules are similar to USA-S rules “This swim-off may be held at any time set by the Referee, but not more than 45 minutes after the last heat of any event in which any one of these swimmers is competing in that session.”
Does that mean that if the tie event is the last for a day the swim-off can be performed right after the swimmers are done with their race?That would be brutal for 1500 or 400 im.
I was running the Easterns meet this week-end where we did the swim-off for 1st alternate in the 500 free. Very strange. In that situation, I've actually seen the swimmers resort to a coin toss.
Generally, the referee lets the two coaches mutually agree on when to do a swim-off. I've run meets where there was a tie in the last event, and the coaches agreed to do a swim-off at the beginning of warmups for the evening or something similar. I believe that the 45-minute rule applies if the coaches can't agree, then the referee can just make a ruling.
Larry Weisenthan had a story over in rec.sport.swimming about a set of twins awhile back, who both swam the 1650 free, and tied. What was bizarre was that they swam in different heats.
But in those distance races, the only time you ever see prelims and finals is at Olympic Trials or the Olympics. Otherwise, you might see a tie in the seeding for 8th, which would mean it would be a random selection as to who was seeded 8th and 9th.
-Rick
