That is a good point about whether he was drunk or not. Cops in Maryland might know all about the Phelps Escalde and just followed his butt like a hawk and when he missed the stop sign, he was fresh meat to the police. That will be really said if Phelps loses his endorsements if they don't the facts of the case. If he was drunk, There goes that rise in swimming popularity some of us in the swimming community would hoping.
Originally posted by tjrpatt
That is a good point about whether he was drunk or not. Cops in Maryland might know all about the Phelps Escalde and just followed his butt like a hawk and when he missed the stop sign, he was fresh meat to the police. That will be really said if Phelps loses his endorsements if they don't the facts of the case. If he was drunk, There goes that rise in swimming popularity some of us in the swimming community would hoping.
If he's drinking and driving, it's totally irrelevant if the police camped out behind him every day and night of the week. I can bet you that the police did not hold him down, force the bottle into his mouth and tell him to drink and drive.
Phelps admitted his "mistake." So, why are you now trying to blame the police for taking away poor little Mikey's endorsements?
Here comes the debate police. As an old poster on this forum once said, kum ba yah.
FACT - he admitted his "mistake." What more info do you need or are you looking for a way to make drinking and driving acceptable?
Please find a single time where I said he should be crucified or even discussed his punishment. That's determined by laws, not me. I am disgusted by the people on this forum looking to marginalize drinking and driving by saying the police might be at fault, he might not have been THAT drunk, it's just a mistake, kids will be kids, etc.
First, he's underage. He broke the law by drinking alone. OK, not a huge deal but then he got into a car. OK, that's a huge deal. So, we have an underage person drinking and driving. That is the absolute recipe for disaster - inexperience with alcohol and inexperience with driving. I don't think Phelps is apologizing for his mistake of running a stop sign, do you?
The only facts we are missing is how drunk he was. You ok with it if he was under the legal limit for persons of drinking age? If so, let's pass out the booze to the 16 year olds, close our eyes real tight and hope for the best as long as they keep the BAC under 0.08%.
But, are they mature enough to drink and drive? The law says you have to be 21 to drink and there are laws about drinking and driving. Hey, for the Phelps' supporters out there, maybe this was his form of civil protest.
newmastersswimmer :
Please refrain from drinking and posting on the forum. While not as dangerous, it still should be illegal, especially when so irrelevant, dude.
I'll know to be wary of driving in TN as drinking and driving is an excusable behavior, since the only real issue is not that you were drinking and driving but just how drunk you were, dude.
Just out of cursiosity - what do you think Phelps was apologizing for? Do you really think he was apologizing for running the stop light, dude?
Lastly, it's also a crime to resurrect 90's catch phrases, on par with challenging folks to a clown suit swimming showdown, dude.
I'm well past my educateable years so you won't have to mow me down on the drunken highways of TN.
I think I'll get the nasty gram from the administrator on this post.
Originally posted by craiglll@yahoo.com
there is a principle in our country called "innocent until proven guilty." Also, I can't find any mention of any testing having been done at the site or later. Does anyone know if the police did any testing to check alcohol levels or sobriety reactions? In every report I have read about this, it states that the policeman saw signs of behavior simular to that from alcohol comsumption. I haven't seen anything to indicate that he was tested to be legally drunk. Or doesn't that matter in Maryland.
He failed a sobriety test, according to the New York Times. It has not been released whether a blood alcohol level was checked. As for innocent until proven guilty, he has admitted he made a mistake and stated that he would "own up to the charges against him." And I don't believe that Maryland is a police state.
Originally posted by craiglll@yahoo.com
Does anyone know if the police did any testing to check alcohol levels or sobriety reactions?
In the articles I have read, they will not say. One of the articles said the police are not releasing that information.
~Kyra
