Do swimmers achieve greater career success?

Originally posted by craiglll@yahoo.com I'm not sure what you mean by this statement. What level was your engineering class that you m ention? How did you do when you took higher level social studies classes. Since the thread is about swimmers and "greater career success", I was just showing a personal example of a career oriented curriculum (electrical engineering) where there was a high percentage of swimmers. I was not a swimmer at the time, but it was notable that the only type of athlete represented in my engineering classes were swimmers. That covered freshman through senior years. Engineers were not required to take the high level social studies classes, so I can't comment on that, but in the low level introductory classes, that's where I would find other athletes from football, baseball, and basketball, none of whom I ever saw in engineering classes. It was an interesting contrast that I witnessed personally. It was just meant to add another piece of data to the debate about whether swimmers achieve greater career success. I don't think that generalization has been decided conclusively. It was not meant to debate the virtues of various college curriculums.

Originally posted by DAP When I was in college, my electrical engineering class had four athletes from the swim team out of 36 total EE students. There were no other sports represented in my class. It left me with the impression that swimmers were smarter and more disciplined than the other athletes. Engineering was tough, and the additional responsibilities of swim meets and practices definitely required discipline. When I would take the easier introductory humanities courses, that's where I would find the football, basketball, and baseball players. I'm not sure what you mean by this statement. What level was your engineering class that you m ention? How did you do when you took higher level social studies classes. I know where I went to college the 400 level Anthropoly and History classs were considered some of the most difficult classes on campus. If you weere at a Liberal Arts college or university, you probably found a very wide range of students in the lowere level classes at all levels. Personally, I found electrical engineering to be very boring becausee it ws concerned with such a limited subject matter.

Originally posted by Karen Duggan That being said, I'd also like to throw out that I bet people are a lot more successful than they think they are- it often seems that people are so busy (sorry for the coming cliche) "keeping up with the Jones's" that they don't take the time to enjoy, or appreciate, what they ALREADY have. And I'm not just talking about money. Success is everywhere and you probably don't have to look very far! I wish that I had read this before I posted. On Saturday night, I was at a cocktail party with some people I've known between 30 to 25 years. One of the guys I was with I'm a very good friend. We marvelled at how different we were and how much we had experienced in the past 25 years. Yet it truly seemed that many peole had been doing the same thing since we were young. It made me really look at what I define as success. Certainly, it isn't what most peole would consider a good life.

Originally posted by craiglll@yahoo.com It is very irreponsible of you to make your statement with the little bit of information you have. I'm sorry if I offended you or others on this forum. That was not my intent at all, so you have my apologies if my comments were hurtful. Let's keep this a friendly place.

It seems that you can only comment on the fact that you along with atheletes from sports were in the same class. Your statement is that you along with atheletes from other sports were in the same class . And you sasy you weren't a swimmer at the time. Were you involved in other atheletics? Do you know how much work the other atheletes put into their class? What their grades were? If they graduated? It is very irreponsible of you to make your statement with the little bit of information you have.

Don't waste your time wanting what you don't have, but remember everything you have now you once only wanted ... or something like that ...