Kosuke Kitajima

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At the U.S. Trials there was one official in every lane looking at the turns, so now that we're in Athens, how does Kitajima get away with that dolphin kick on his turn? It seemed clear to me from the above water shot, then was confirmed with the underwater. Other breaststrokers care to weigh in?
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    Basically you can do whatever you want, as long as you stay on your back and surface within 15m. You don't have to swim back crawl!
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    Originally posted by LindsayNB Basically you can do whatever you want, as long as you stay on your back and surface within 15m. You don't have to swim back crawl! There was a great Canadian Backstroker by the name of Ross who used to swim for USC, he used to do a double arm backstroke. George Park www.swimdownhill.com
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    Has anyone tried to use a fly kick during the actual stroke? It is more powerful than a flutter kick right? Although I wonder if it might not be as good at keeping your feet/legs/hips up - therefore allowing more drag.
  • Speaking of dolfin kicks I do think Aaron Piersol took an extra kick before the turn where he was almost DQ'd.It was subtle & I doubt I would have noticed without the controversy.
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    Originally posted by Allen Stark Speaking of dolfin kicks I do think Aaron Piersol took an extra kick before the turn where he was almost DQ'd.It was subtle & I doubt I would have noticed without the controversy. I'm not sure what you mean by "extra kick". The rules for backstroke turns simply say that: "During the turn the shoulders may be turned over the vertical to the *** after which a continuous single arm pull or a continuous simultaneous double arm pull may be used to initiate the turn. Once the body has left the position on the back, any kick or arm pull must be part of the continuous turning action. The swimmer must have returned to the position on the back upon leaving the wall. When executing the turn there must be a touch of the wall with some part of the swimmer’s body." Note that while it specifies "a continuous single arm pull or a continuous simultaneous double arm pull" (which would imply that only one arm pull is allowed), there is no similar provision regarding kicking. Historically, it has been ruled that any kicking that is done during the continuous turning action is considered part of it. So if the arm pull was not continuous, or was not directly linked to the turning action (i.e., if there was a pause between the arm pull and the flip), any kicking done prior to the pause would be illegal. But this would really be irrelevant, since it would be a DQ even if there were no kicking prior to the pause, because the turning action would not have been continuous. But if the arm pull was continuous, and was directly linked to the turning action, the only grounds for a DQ would be if there were a pause after the roll onto the *** and before the beginning of the arm pull, and if kicking occurred during that pause.
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    Did anyone catch any coverage of the breaststroke leg of the Mens 400 Medley Relay finals? I was wondering if there was any underwater footage of Kitajima's 100 *** in the relay. His time was pretty 'smokin' fast. I think he was a 1/10 of a second so faster than Hansen. I don't know if it was the fastest 100 *** split ever, but it was probably pretty close!
  • A quote from one of my favorite movies...."Fire away and fall back!" I still say he should have been DQ'd! .....Kitajima that is! Not Peirsol!
  • Originally posted by gull80 Was that The Long Riders? Great movie. Yes! It is a good one!;)
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    Was that The Long Riders? Great movie.
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    Beth….I prefer the “Stick the bayonet in and shoot it out” style….