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Just saw this when I logged on. news.yahoo.com/news
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    Originally posted by jdut Interesting that Eastern medicine can make it into the pool. Acupuncture is a centuries-old art/science not involving drugs which has proven effective for pain relief, etc. Acupressure (putting pressure on specific points, not needles) can have similar effects. I have used acupuncture and acupressure patches for seasickness (long swims) and ADD and had good results. Personal testimony aside, Richard Quick has always been something of an innovator and, as someone else mentioned, he would not use the patches if they were not OK. In 1956 The Japanese Olympic swim team had all kinds of needle marks on there backs arms and legs, we thought they were using drugs until they explained the technique to us. I had a French Canadian masseuse who used acupressure on me, before and after everyone of my Marathon races that I did in the USA or Canada for years. They were a great help in controlling pain. I'll have to try the patches when I start competeing in th fall. George Park www.swimdownhill.com
  • Give me a break, the introduction of super secret banned amino acids due to a pressure point patch. Equipment improval is as much a part of sports as conditioning itself. Everyone is way too freaked out over stuff like this these days and has the tendency to go to ridiculous extremes.
  • You know, after that post, immediately after, I realized I had coined a new word, kind of bothered me for a while as I tried to rationalize that "improval" might actually be a word. Alas, it's not and was hoping no one would notice my improvalment on the English language. I'll blame it on the carcinogenic effects of swamp gas. Better yet, it's probably all that hot coffee I drink. Then again, maybe you are just a touch wind-blown after Alex came through your neighborhood today. Any damage out east?
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    Suppose the device does work as described, somehow using amino acids to induce some sort of electrical current that aids stamina, should it be legal? Would it not be a device that aids performance and therefore illegal? Or only legal if incorporated as part of a costume thereby somehow becoming not a device ala the Tyr/Speedo distinction? :rolleyes: It was interesting that most of the articles listed four accupuncture points where the patch could be useful, and that the shoulder wasn't one of them. I just don't see why we want our sport to go down this road, why can't we stick to improving technique and conditioning not equipment/costumes?
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    Next thing you know they'll be wanting to examine your clown suit. By the way, what is "equipment improval?" You folks out in the swamps of Charlotte sure do talk funny.
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    Interesting that Eastern medicine can make it into the pool. Acupuncture is a centuries-old art/science not involving drugs which has proven effective for pain relief, etc. Acupressure (putting pressure on specific points, not needles) can have similar effects. I have used acupuncture and acupressure patches for seasickness (long swims) and ADD and had good results. Personal testimony aside, Richard Quick has always been something of an innovator and, as someone else mentioned, he would not use the patches if they were not OK.
  • Originally posted by aquageek Everyone is way too freaked out over stuff like this these days and has the tendency to go to ridiculous extremes. Hear, hear Geek!