Transsexuals in the Olympics

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Cut From Yahoo News: LAUSANNE, Switzerland - Transsexuals were cleared Monday to compete in the Olympics for the first time. Under a proposal approved by the IOC executive board, athletes who have undergone sex-change surgery will be eligible for the Olympics if their new gender has been legally recognized and they have gone through a minimum two-year period of postoperative hormone therapy. The decision, which covers both male-to-female and female-to-male cases, goes into effect starting with the Athens Olympics in August. The IOC had put off a decision in February, saying more time was needed to consider all the medical issues. Some members had been concerned whether male-to-female transsexuals would have physical advantages competing against women. Men have higher levels of testosterone and greater muscle-to-fat ratio and heart and lung capacity. However, doctors say, testosterone levels and muscle mass drop after hormone therapy and sex-change surgery. IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said the situation of transsexuals competing in high-level sports was "rare but becoming more common." IOC medical director Patrick Schamasch said no specific sports had been singled out by the ruling. "Any sport may be touched by this problem," he said. "Until now, we didn't have any rules or regulations. We needed to establish some sort of policy." Until 1999, the IOC conducted gender verification tests at the Olympics but the screenings were dropped before the 2000 Sydney Games. One of the best known cases of transsexuals in sports involves Renee Richards, formerly Richard Raskind, who played on the women's tennis tour in the 1970s. In March, Australia's Mianne Bagger became the first transsexual to play in a pro golf tournament. Michelle Dumaresq, formerly Michael, has competed in mountain bike racing for Canada. Richards, now a New York opthamologist, was surprised by the IOC decision and was against it. She said decisions on transsexuals should be made on an individual basis. "Basically, I think they're making a wrong judgment here, although I would have loved to have that judgment made in my case in 1976," she said. "They're probably looking for trouble down the line. There may be a true transsexual — not someone who's nuts and wants to make money — who will be a very good champion player, and it will be a young person, let's say a Jimmy Connors or a Tiger Woods, and then they'll have an unequal playing field. "In some sports, the physical superiority of men over women is very significant."
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    You are so deluded by bigotry that you can't help but be insulting, rather than attempt to carry on a logical debate.
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    smallminded racist bigotted bigottry....need i go on....these are just the names you have so far called me for being straight with an oppinion...let me not stoop to your level of name calling at this time of night...again good luck in your transgendered world in which your president becomes first lady....sorry couldnt resist.......lesby friends..????
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    Don't really want to step into this one...but...purely on the point of who in their right mind would choose to undergo such a procedure just to win a gold medal? Look no further than the hosts of the 2008 Olympics (China) and the cloud of suspicion that already hangs over their female swimmers. Remember the East German swimmers had little choice in the matter of their doping.
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    Originally posted by sparx35 smallminded racist bigotted bigottry....need i go on....these are just the names you have so far called me for being straight with an oppinion...let me not stoop to your level of name calling at this time of night...again good luck in your transgendered world in which your president becomes first lady....sorry couldnt resist.......lesby friends..???? Ion gets kicked off and this is OK?
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    "smallminded racist bigotted bigottry....need i go on....these are just the names you have so far called me for being straight with an oppinion...let me not stoop to your level of name calling at this time of night...again good luck in your transgendered world in which your president becomes first lady....sorry couldnt resist.......lesby friends..????" Yep, you got me on that one! Although I don't know you, your posts project an attitude of bigotry. Bigot: one obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his own opinions and prejudices (kinda sounds like you!) I never called you a racist though, and I apologize if that is how my posted sounded - it certainly wasn't meant to be directed to you. I was just try to make a point. Question: why do you have such an attitude toward people who are transgendered? Is it just the idea of them participating in competitive swimming or....? Kari - who is also straight with an opinion! Cheers
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    Originally posted by Fishgrrl "By sparx35: i respectfully also must point out that not all the world welcomes with open arms homosexuality or transgenderism..and that oppinions expressed are although true ,not meant to harm.As the saying is true to trannys also is true to straights......free speach...thankyou for you time...:rolleyes:" Yes, you're correct. Not everyone in the world opens their arms wide to those who are different in any way; or even of another race or culture, or gender or sexual orientation or religion... shall I go on? The problem I have is with those who choose to be racist and bigoted and base their beliefs solely on the color of a person's skin, religious beliefs, gender, or sexual orientation, etc. No need to roll my eyes....and no need for sarcasm on my end Sparx.
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    by the way i said perv***ts not perverts so did retain some political deplomacy..in my premier posts to this disturbing development in normal swimming.....g night all except *****ts:D
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    Originally posted by Fishgrrl "smallminded racist bigotted bigottry....need i go on....these are just the names you have so far called me for being straight with an oppinion...let me not stoop to your level of name calling at this time of night...again good luck in your transgendered world in which your president becomes first lady....sorry couldnt resist.......lesby friends..????" Yep, you got me on that one! Although I don't know you, your posts project an attitude of bigotry. Bigot: one obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his own opinions and prejudices (kinda sounds like you!) I never called you a racist though, and I apologize if that is how my posted sounded - it certainly wasn't meant to be directed to you. I was just try to make a point. TO HIS OWN.OPPINIONS AND PREDJUDICES...doesnt this suggest sexism too?sparx out!!!SORRY PS TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE BUT ARENT YOU???
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    Sure, we're all argumentative off and on at times. No need to apologize for that. Cheers, Kari
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    YEA cheers well agree to differ on this subject then...and maybe will agree on a different subject some time in the future...maybe..?