Dubai - proposed changes

I have been so busy with the XI FINA Masters World Championships, I have not been able to report some of the other things that I learned at the FINA Bureau meeting in Dubai last month. One of the great things about going to the meetings is the ability to develop personal relationships with the members of the Bureau. On Saturday afternoon, the Bureau meetings were finished. I was walking through the lobby of the beautiful Fairmont Dubai, at one table was Cornel Marculescu, FINA Executive Director, Bill Matson and Dale Neuburger, our FINA rep. I got called over to them and we talked about the championships to be held at Stanford. After a couple of glasses of wine, somehow the conversation got on the topic of evening out the competition. I told them that when I was in high school in San Francisco, they had a system of exponents for teams and a person could have no more than x amount of points (points were given for age, height and weight). This way you could have a basketball team of people of about like physical ability playing the game. Bill Matson said that FINA Masters Committee was looking at differenciating the records. The FINA Bureau wants to be more inclusive and the ability to have more records. When you have different types of records more people can go after them.- it will create more excitement and maybe more people will want to swim Masters As FINA is divided into different geographical segments North America, South American, Europe, Asia and Pacific the FINA Masters Committee will be recommending that the records be kept for those areas. (I thought I heard that this was being proposed by the French who wanted there swimmers to be able to get international recognition – there best women Masters swimmers are in the same age group as Laura Val). Dale said that the US is been opposed to this and that he and June Krauser have been working to keep it in committee, but it looks like he does not have the votes to keep it there. The US thinks that there should be only one set of records and in the current format. He also said that there is going to be “super category” of Masters records. Masters Masters (age 40-59) and Senior Masters (60+). Cornel said that Walt Reid, who keeps track of all the International Masters Records, while initially opposed to the idea, has developed the software to handle all the new data that will be coming in. Dale said FINA Masters will be recommending that the Federations have new categories for swimmers who were not age group swimmers (he thought this was marketing than from the competition committee). I laughed and said yea – right – the next thing you would do is to keep records on the BMI (Body Mass Index Scale). Cornel said that was considerd but they would like to see some other changes made first. Bill said that all that is left to do is that it has to pass the FINA Masters Committee. They will be meeting in Riccione, Italy just before the X FINA Masters World Championships. (Dale thinks that the French and Europeans have the votes to get it through). After it passes there, it will go the the FINA Congress (In past years, it met at the same time as the Olympics, but starting with this Congress, it will meet at the World Championships). Anyway, that is what I learned at Dubai. And thought you might like to know. michael
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    Thank you Dorthy and others for the kind words... I will not be at Nationals this year..I am working through some tough times in my life....and with a bit of luck and God's blessings....I will be there next year....I look so forward to meeting you all....and my bent, demented sense of humor is still stead fast in some very tough times....Heck, if I can't laugh at myself, then who can I laugh at...? You should laugh at yourself dummy because your such a dork....hush up...I am writing this...No, really your such a dork...you should laugh at yourself...I said hush up, or I am going to turn you off....can not, can to, not, to Kindest regards, Tom
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    Now that the reults are in......It has been pointed out to me by my alter ego Spaceman Spiff that Ion would not even be able to carry Tom's bags to the pool!:D
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    Originally posted by Tom Ellison I was awakened this fine morning at 4 am here in beautiful Cody, WY by snow blowing in my You haven't lived in WY long have ya? Not wise to leave your windows open at night until about the last 2 weeks in July-1st week in Aug. Unless of course you like your bedroom at 40º ;)
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    I am a new guy to WY...but lived in Colo many years in the high mtns.....and since the heat is free in my apt...I love fresh air.... But, your right Doc.....the seasons are...winter, Aug. and winter here in WY...
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    Ion, YOU HAVEN'T "OVERCOME" ANYTHING to earn special recognition or support in swimming, no matter how much you demand it. Look at Tom's post; look at the Americans suffering every day in Iraq; how about the homeless, the poor, the family friend of ours suffering from terminal cancer in a hospital in Atlanta-he's not yet three years old. No one cares for your condescension or your self-important blather. Please, if you want to talk about challenges, stick to what you overcame to simply get here. Otherwise, leave us alone.
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    Ion, what's so great about Tom is not simply what he had to overcome but what he achieved in the end. My son understands this--born with CP he still plays basketball with the local YMCA league and has a great (one handed) outside shot. He doesn't want recognition for participating with a disability, he wants to have a big game and score a lot of baskets. And the other kids play him straight up, as they should (he wouldn't have it any other way). Confront your adversity, overcome it, and achieve (NQT's, Top 10 times, whatever). Then you'll get your recognition. That's how things work. And stop disrespecting the efforts of others.
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    Originally posted by aquageek ... I cruised over to usswim.org yesterday to check out their forums. Beza was active over there but I guess he got bored talking about teen idols and favorite color Speedos and came back to torture us with his never endin nonsense. ... I agree with one thing, the usswim forums do seem to be filled with a lot of pre-teen and teen chatter. I for one feel much more comfortable here.
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    Incredible story Tom. Congratulations on being stong enough to overcome. Also, good luck with the difficulties you are experiencing now.
  • I have an idea, and I'm serious, for once. (VO2 shampoo and bloomers aside of course.) Since SWIM magazine obviously doesn't have the space to give everyone the recognition they deserve, why don't we start a thread where we can "obtain recognition" and "warm fuzzys" about our every day "challenges" and things we have overcome. SWIM wouldn't have to send interviewers or photograhers, we could be our own editors (although Ion seems to edit for everyone) and we could share with each other encouraging words, and perhaps kudos. That might fix Ion. I mean help Ion feel better. That is why we are all here isn't it? I'll start. Hmm, what to name the thread? "Hey, look what I've done?" "It's been challenging and I want everyone to know" "Ion's Inspirations" Yes, I think I like the last one. That way we can all share, and, hey, know A LOT more about each other, and Ion will get the honor of a thread named after him (a positive nuisance, I mean nuance to be sure). Here I go. Check it out. P.S. Tom, I was hoping you could post your story again. It is truly inspirational.
  • Ion, I would like to apologize to you for my remarks earlier in the thread. I should've just walked away from the computer and let myself calm down before my fingers started typing. I was very angry, I was actually shaking, while I wrote that post. I thought you had insulted Tom, who I think the world of....a very classy & kind man. In some of the following posts you said you did not mean to insult him. If you did not mean your statement that way, I am sorry for attacking you. You are often misunderstood by many on this thread. You are entitled to your opinions. That is what makes this country great. You are entitled by USMS to voice your opinions on this site. Please stop attacking people personally though. I'm sorry if I hurt you.