Ion:
Interesting that you still cannot support your own claim that now 90%, you previously said 80%, of USMS swimmers are slower than you. The only evidence anyone can point to is Tempe Nats results from last year where you were, in fact, slower than 85% of those in your own age group. Hard to be faster than 90% yet factually confronted with being slower than 85%.
So, continue down your merry path of making up stories and half truths. It's almost become sport on this forum to knock them down. Like shooting fish in a barrel, not very challenging.
And, you all of all people should thank your blessings that gull80 gives you something to hang a theory on. Otherwise, you'd be back to quoting as-yet unnamed veterinarians and morticians.
I wish you well on your next endeavor to prove your speed cause the previous attempts have come up flops, much like your dive entry!
This old dog got nqt's in the 500 and 1650 for the first time this year. [I'm 50}
Only because my technique got better; not because of more
yardage/meat and potatoes. I swam ~3000/day, 4-5 X/week.
I was not an age grouper.
Listening to Terry L and Emmett and Tom Ellison and Glenn via "SWIM" and USMS, I finally understood what "core strength"meant.
I swam faster at 50 than 38 years old.
Ion said his best SCM 1500 was in 1986. Go figure.
Originally posted by old dog
This old dog got nqt's in the 500 and 1650 for the first time this year.
The higher age groups -even though containing youthful-looking competitors like Jim Clemons, Rich Abrahams, Jim McConica, Graham Johnston, Laura Val who can race well in NCAA against teenagers- are more lax in times that make NQTs.
In men 50 to 55, the NQT for the 1,000 free is 12:46.23.
It is slower than my 12:25 from last year and belongs to the more than 80% -probably even more than 90%- of the USMS swimmers across U.S. who are slower than me.
Same for 21:26.29 the NQT for men 55 to 55 in the 1,650 free.
Making these NQT by little, is swimming slower than me.
So my "...meat and potatoes..." workouts work better at making fast times.
Tom,
An Excellent post.
So very very true.
Can I suggest that you repost this in a new thread? It needs to be seen. And in an hour it will be buried 3 pages back.
Those interested will have a chance to stay with the thoughts in your topic, in this new thread, rather than sifting through serveral pages
;)
Originally posted by Ion Beza
Do you know of someone who makes NQTs in men 40 to 44 or 45 to 49 and is a late bloomer faster than me?
It can't be done by anyone but me.
Sorry, Late bloomer is not a USMS recognized category.
And after all the vitriol that you dished out here, you're not about to gat any pats on the back or recognition. The bottom line is, you don't cut it.
Tough ****ski.
Bellyaching, butting heads, putting people down and demamding attention, changing stories, twisting facts arguing with people and tooting your own horn like a peacock in heat are not very beciming qualities. If you want recognition, you're going about it the wrong way.
You could have gotten All-Americam, hell, you could be faster than Popov, and this kind of an attitude would still be a major turnoff, and I'd give you **** for it.
You want recognition and a pat on the back, stand in front of a mirror. I bet you hate what you see in a mirror.
Originally posted by aquageek
Ion:
Pretty predictable behavior from you - post a fallacy, have it dispelled, refuse to provide evidence,...
...
What did you dispel?
That 90% of USMS -including you, Connie and lots of posters in this thread- are slower than me in the 1,000 free and beyond?
You didn't dispel my claim.
The Nationals bring in less than 3% of the USMS, the most competitive ones:
about 1,000 go to the Nationals, out of 42,000.
The 42,000 are in workouts, with 90% of them in slower lanes than me.
Also you learned in this thread the importance of VO2Max -Craig that I saw you trust told it to you here, but I keep teaching its meaning to you for three threads, two that were deleted-, you learned that the pshysiology of a good swimmer is best developed in child and teen-age years, etc..
Basic knowledge that you -and many here- lack.
You should count your blessings since being backward you have a chance to learn from this.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
The higher age groups -even though containing youthful-looking competitors like Jim Clemons, Rich Abrahams, Jim McConica, Graham Johnston, Laura Val who can race well in NCAA against teenagers- are more lax in times that make NQTs.
In men 50 to 55, the NQT for the 1,000 free is 12:46.23.
It is slower than my 12:25 from last year and belongs to the more than 80% -probably even more than 90%- of the USMS swimmers across U.S. who are slower than me.
Same for 21:26.29 the NQT for men 55 to 55 in the 1,650 free.
Making these NQT by little, is swimming slower than me.
So my "...meat and potatoes..." workouts work better at making fast times.
Comparing yourself to the people outside your class aghain, ay?
What's gonna happen when you're 55 and still don't make the NQT's? What excuse for not cutting it will you have then, after 25 years of swimming???
No VO2max? Late bloomer?
All you are is a bunch of lame excuses.
