I like the article in swim Magazine about Rita Egan and Sylvia powell. These women are not your typical slim young swimmers that are elite swimmers but like the rest of us ordinary. Actually, given my previous background in swimming I'm also won of these average jills. As a youth I swam the 100 meter *** at 1:30 and as a 46 at 1:43.31. So, many of us do it for enjoyment and some exercise knowing that we will never be at the top of the pack. I think we should have more of these stories?. And Ion believe me you are not that bad. You did a 2:31 200 meter freestyle. I recently swam a 3:15. So don't feel bad and their is alot more competition in the men than in the women in 45 to 49. Not saying that their are not good swimmers in the women.
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The majority of masters swimmers are in this for the fun of a group workout. There's something to be said about going to practice in numbers where you can count on lane mates for motivation and inspiration. And if one were to take a poll they might find that only a small percentage actually compete on a regular basis. Many without a swimming background may find it intimidating to say the least as they consider entering the meet atmosphere.
It's refreshing to read about personal triumphs wether or not they stack up to the achievements of the veterans. That very article may inspire someone out there to get off their duff and give it a go. There are hundreds if not thousands of former swimmers with dried up gills who have not yet heard the call back to the pool. And when they do return SWIM magazine provides a nice insight to what got them started up again and how they train. There's tons of places to read about the latest speed demons. I want to hear about the 300 pound former champion who quit smoking, drinking, & overeating, and can now swim circles around the kids.
I think that Paul is missing this:
Originally posted by Ion Beza
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...and after re-reading the Sept./Oct. 2003 Swim magazine, I stick to it being a waste.
.) 'Making Masters Fun: Is Your Pool FUNKY?':
is a waste;
.) 'Goal-Setting':
how much more banal and generic can you get?;
.) "...I just love the pursuit of doing something right,..." in page 21:
who doesn't?
and
since when has this slogan been the profound recipe of any achievement in line with my achievements I am talking about?;
.) not one analysis in Swim magazine of a high achiever's ethics.
When people in this thread mention that when unhappy with the information in Swim magazine, I have the option to gather my information elsewhere, I point out to them that when posting frequently in this forum, I do display knowledge of information that I gather from other sources -information that Swim magazine doesn't afford-.
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Take 'Goal Setting' in page 18 for example:
that article is banal and generic like I said, and can be re-cycled by the author for a professional fee in any sports rag (in triathlon, in baseball, in football, in running or biking) like if it was tailored to the magazine's subjects just by changing some key words, and can be re-cycled again in Swim magazine every seven months because I trust that people here inebriated with such profound slogans as "That might be the reason, but it isn't an excuse." won't even notice it, and when this is pointed out then they would start the next profound slogan, the 'Get a life.' one.
Brief, whatever Swim magazine chooses to write about, there is not much quality in its content.
And your point is?
Again, you're missing my point,
AND getting sidetracked by . . .
none other than . . .
Yourself.
Come in for a landing, Ion! I guess you'd be a world record holder if you didn't have so many excuses.
Ya know, I get just as annoyed with your inflated ego as you get with fat people who don't spin their wheels overtraining.
Ion,
I don't believe anyone here looks down on your personal, professional and athletic accomplishments. It is your persistent need to prove to others how great you are, your need for constant adoration from others, your tendency to put others down to make yourself appear better, your need to right 100% of the time and your general negative attitude that everyone objects to. If you continue on this path, you will successfully alienate everyone you come in contact with. No one will want to be around you, no matter how fast you swim, where you rank, how many languages you speak or how accomplished you are in your field. You have probably already experienced this rejection, whether you admit it or not. The rejection is most likely the reason you lash out in the way that you do, which unfortunately only serves to push others even further away.
Ion I was trying to be nice when I posted that. I actually say it to my clients, who, by the way, are CHILDREN trying to excuse their poor behavior. I hold every intelligent person accountable for their behavior. There may be reasons why they act the way they do, but there are no excuses. You are an adult who is responsible for his behavior. You have been put on notice many times on this board that your behavior is borish to say the least. You are no longer somewhere, where you have to fight for everything. Now it is up to you to change. I wish you luck in that endevor, but I have my doubts about your ability to change without professional help. You do truely have so much to offer, but it is all going to waste because of your attitude and behavior. What I am saying, Ion, despite accomplishments that make you appear to be successful, you are in fact a failure in life. If given a choice between modeling myself after an overweight person who recognizes his/her problem and chooses to do something about it; or modeling myself after you, I wouldn't choose you as a role model.
Now that being said, you may rant against me (as I know you will because you can not accept the truth) all you want.
After considering c j's entire last post, I think that c j is rambling on tangent issues (like feeling that I should welcome newcomers to fitness, not knowing me personally on this matter because I do welcome them more than themselves they do it for themselves), and after re-reading the Sept./Oct. 2003 Swim magazine, I stick to it being a waste.
.) 'Making Masters Fun: Is Your Pool FUNKY?':
is a waste;
.) 'Goal-Setting':
how much more banal and generic can you get?;
.) "...I just love the pursuit of doing something right,..." in page 21:
who doesn't?
and
since when has this slogan been the profound recipe of any achievement in line with my achievements I am talking about?;
.) not one analysis in Swim magazine of a high achiever's ethics.
When people in this thread mention that when unhappy with the information in Swim magazine, I have the option to gather my information elsewhere, I point out to them that when posting frequently in this forum, I do display knowledge of information that I gather from other sources -information that Swim magazine doesn't afford-.
I am stating that to my achievements, the Swim magazine is mostly a waste, with its bureaucratic style of peachy superlatives and accolades to former age-group swimmers who keep in shape in USMS.
Originally posted by c j
And your point is?
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The point is that anecdote I bring up, is more exciting than the entire Swim magazine issue:
back to back 800 free and 200 free in those fast times (for a late bloomer) before tapering, that beats in work ethics, say 'Is Your Pool FUNKY?'.
Well, I understand a little about your background Ion. I didn't come from a nice middle class background either. Lived in a moble home until 12 years old and my mother and father both work in an era when Mothers stayed home. MY parents were able to get a little track house back in 1969. I attended school with a lot of minorities as a kid. In grade school I went to school with blacks and Jr high and high school with Mexicans. I was as a child and teengaer from a lower middle class background. Coming from poor living standards from Eastern Europe to upper-middle class in the United States explains some of your emphasis on how good of a swimmer you are and trying to impress others.
