I like the article in swim Magazine about Rita Egan and Sylvia powell. These women are not your typical slim young swimmers that are elite swimmers but like the rest of us ordinary. Actually, given my previous background in swimming I'm also won of these average jills. As a youth I swam the 100 meter *** at 1:30 and as a 46 at 1:43.31. So, many of us do it for enjoyment and some exercise knowing that we will never be at the top of the pack. I think we should have more of these stories?. And Ion believe me you are not that bad. You did a 2:31 200 meter freestyle. I recently swam a 3:15. So don't feel bad and their is alot more competition in the men than in the women in 45 to 49. Not saying that their are not good swimmers in the women.
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Before we get too congratulatory...
Though Ion did bring up some great topics for SWIM to consider, there are these:
-Extensive profiles on training, techniques, and tapers have been presented by SWIM in the last two years on Rich Abrahams and Jim McConica and others. All you need to do is look for them.
-SWIM Magazine is a periodical that has to tailor its offerings to nearly 40,000 registered masters swimmers and cannot be solely a swimming "technique" manual. If that is what you need, that is what Swimming Technique Magazine is for.
-These are great ideas, though. The problem is you aren't necessarily addressing them to the right audience. Contact SWIM or SWIMMING TECHNIQUE directly if you want to encourage changes.
-It shouldn't matter what the "lifelong racers" and Olympians are doing if you consider your efforts as a "late starter" more impressive and far different to train and prepare for. Great to see this and admire others efforts, but we are not them...
-"Can a late bloomer compete with lifelong racers?" This supposed "curse" of not starting swimming until you was 28, is tired. You can swim with anyone you want but remember: compete, train, and enjoy Masters for YOURSELF first! Someday, you may be a good swimmer, but I think, Ion that you spend too much time both looking at the lane next to you as well as for the next big "magic potion" that will get you around whatever corner you are trying to navigate. We are getting older--not everyone can get faster!
-Be nice. We are good people, here for common goals. Tearing down, dismissing, and considering only your own opinions as the best possible explanation makes you seem like an isolated person, whether you believe this or not. We all have value.
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Originally posted by Bert Bergen
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-Extensive profiles on training, techniques, and tapers have been presented by SWIM in the last two years on Rich Abrahams and Jim McConica and others. All you need to do is look for them.
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One article had been written about Jim and one article had been written about Rich in the past two years, but "-Extensive profiles..." had not been written.
I haven't seen Fritz Lehman, Tom McCabe, Andreas Seibt and others in Swim magazine, and regarding Rich Abrahams and Jim McConica, they evolve a lot and they have a lot to inquire about and to share with interested people since the last article on them.
Originally posted by Bert Bergen
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-These are great ideas, though. The problem is you aren't necessarily addressing them to the right audience. Contact SWIM or SWIMMING TECHNIQUE directly if you want to encourage changes.
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August 2002, Bill Volckening and myself we spoke about an article, he promised to do it and took pictures of me.
He broke his promise, without my permission:
never heard of his promise, again.
Originally posted by Bert Bergen
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-It shouldn't matter what the "lifelong racers" and Olympians are doing if you consider your efforts as a "late starter" more impressive and far different to train and prepare for. Great to see this and admire others efforts, but we are not them...
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How do you know this?
Knowledge is information, and effort with inspiration is based on trying out different types of knowledge.
Originally posted by Bert Bergen
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-"Can a late bloomer compete with lifelong racers?" This supposed "curse" of not starting swimming until you was 28, is tired.
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It is tired to you.
Thousands of late starters in swimming are potentially new USMS racers:
USMS is not just for the former age-group swimmer.
Former Member
Ion,
In regards to your potential swim article by Bill and a the broken promise. I am not privy of what was said - you had mentioned that after speaking with Bill nothing more was said, so the question I have to ask is did you ever try to contact Bill to find out whatever happened (its not to hard considering he is listed), there my be a good reason or a million reasons why the article never came to fruitation. So rather than finding out what happened you attack one's character in a public forum like this (twice now) which is pretty rude, especially when you don't know the facts (or maybe you do and just wish not to share them with us). One again this shows how easy it is criticize and be negative than be constructive and try to be part of the solution.
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Originally posted by kaelonj
Ion,
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...there my be a good reason or a million reasons why the article never came to fruitation.
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Making a promise, that's owing the promise to the recipient of the promise.
One can get out of the promise for whatever reason, by asking the recipient to be let out.
I was never asked by Bill Volckening to let him out of his promise.
Just ignored.
Former Member
Ion,
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the article was dropped because of someone above Bill on the magazine staff - like the CEO, Senior Editor, Editor in Chief or Publisher or any number of reasons that Bill did not have specific control over. Instead of finding out, you would rather attack him personally and discredit his character, that truely shows bad form. if you wish the last word, post away, I will not waste any more time responding to your character assasination of Bill - and that's a promise.
Former Member
"In the end, veracity and rectitude will always triumph."
And we all have the right to free speech. Whether or not the content has any merit to it does not matter. Did you ever consider perhaps that SWIM might be a little fluffy at times? Next month's features just may include an article like....Rubber Duckies. Can't be in the water without them? Here's the answer to keeping those little buzzards glued to your suit during those long sets.
And best wishes to Tom. With the marvel of today's medical science that new hip may be considered a secret weapon when wet.
Former Member
Originally posted by Ion Beza
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One can get out of the promise for whatever reason, by asking the recipient to be let out.
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I know a lot of people who have had trying life experiences. This is not an excuse nor a reason to be rude, ugly and arrogant. If you give someone an excuse to act poorly, they most certainly will. While Ion's background may be the most troubling and his rise to stardom the most uplifting story ever told, it certainly is not worthy of using as any reason for his behavior.
I'm sick of it. Others are sick of it. This thread has been reduced to yet another Ion oriented thread, devoid of any meaningful swimming information.
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Critiquing the content of SWIM should not be interpreted as an attack on USMS as an organization, nor as a sign of disrespect toward its members. The magazine does however proclaim itself "the world's foremost authority on adult swimming." I have read it for many years, usually find something of interest, and will continue to do so. But it is what it is.
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Ion, I like your list post. That's the way to handle your point, and I wish it was up last week. Thanks for showing us some promise.
-c j
