National Senior Games

Former Member
Former Member
I just competed (and I use the term loosely) in the 2003 National Senior Games and found it very disappointing to see that Master swimmers have pretty much taken over the awards platform. This event used to be mainly for recreational athletes who either could not or did not want to compete at a higher level. This was our opportunity to have a moment in the spotlight by competing against athletes who were “equal” to our level of skill. Our moment to believe we were the best in our group and to share our victories with our friends. By coming to this event, you (the Master swimmers) have assured that no one who is a recreational athlete will ever get a medal and you have pushed the minimum standard time so low that many athletes no longer qualify to even come to the National event. In talking with over 85 athletes of various ages, it was generally agreed that within the next few years, this will be “just another Master’s venue”. You already have four National Events EACH YEAR, the SC Yards, SC Meters, LC Meters, and the YMCA Nationals. Why can’t you leave ONE event that takes places every OTHER year for the swimmers who will never be at any of your meets? Out of the 85 swimmers I spoke with, an overwhelming percent said they would probably not go to the event in Pittsburgh, PA since there would probably be more Masters there and no place for them. I realize that this event is open to all seniors, but I ask you, how would you feel to have your only chance to win a medal taken away by someone who probably has a box full of them? If you look at the times, you will see that that the top three places in nearly all events went to Masters who all hold top 10 times in USMS. So the athletes, who are not Masters, had to settle for ribbons. There were so many disappointed families, friends, and swimmers who had hoped to win a medal and stand on the awards platform and share their shining moment with their families. Instead it was Masters and the majority of them didn’t even bring families. It was “just another meet” for them. I’m sure I’m going to be made the “bad guy” by writing this, but my mother is 83 years old and watched her medal go to a Master swimmer and my heart broke for her. She may not be here for any future games and she really worked hard to do well, then you guys showed up. Please, leave the recreational National Event for us and be happy with your four events each year.
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    I did not say I was dissappointed by the competition. Quite the contrary, there were some excellent swimmers there, but none of us placed in the top three. I realize that NSGA and USMS have very similar directives, and that only a few swimmers fall into the elite catagory. Unfortunately, those are the ones who came to the event. Why they would want to swim where there is obviously no competition, I'm not sure. When I asked several of them why they came, the basic was "we like to win and get medals and set records." If they had been a little friendler and less aggressive, we might have felt differently about them. I have many very good friends who are registed master swimmers, but don't go the National events because of the level of competition. We had a wonderful time at the meet. We danced and swam and enjoyed the company of our fellow athletes. The "elite" group of swimmers did not participate in much of this. They take their swimming very seriously and don't have time for foolishness. This was the comment made to me by two of the Master swimmers. They expected to win, to receive the accolades, and were not very interested in the "recreactional" swimmers or having fun. We have taken it us with NSGA, and they have said they do not know how to keep them out, but if we could come up with a clear and fair plan, they would take it under consideration. We asked them to consider two levels of swimmers, but that takes too much time. So unless we can come up with a plan, we are stuck with the "elitists". So now the decisions start about if we should go to Pittsburg or just look at forming our own group similar to NSGA and making sure that the playing field stays level.
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  • Former Member
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    I did not say I was dissappointed by the competition. Quite the contrary, there were some excellent swimmers there, but none of us placed in the top three. I realize that NSGA and USMS have very similar directives, and that only a few swimmers fall into the elite catagory. Unfortunately, those are the ones who came to the event. Why they would want to swim where there is obviously no competition, I'm not sure. When I asked several of them why they came, the basic was "we like to win and get medals and set records." If they had been a little friendler and less aggressive, we might have felt differently about them. I have many very good friends who are registed master swimmers, but don't go the National events because of the level of competition. We had a wonderful time at the meet. We danced and swam and enjoyed the company of our fellow athletes. The "elite" group of swimmers did not participate in much of this. They take their swimming very seriously and don't have time for foolishness. This was the comment made to me by two of the Master swimmers. They expected to win, to receive the accolades, and were not very interested in the "recreactional" swimmers or having fun. We have taken it us with NSGA, and they have said they do not know how to keep them out, but if we could come up with a clear and fair plan, they would take it under consideration. We asked them to consider two levels of swimmers, but that takes too much time. So unless we can come up with a plan, we are stuck with the "elitists". So now the decisions start about if we should go to Pittsburg or just look at forming our own group similar to NSGA and making sure that the playing field stays level.
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