On short notice I will be in Paris, France, for most of next week. This is a week when I would like to get some meterage in.
Can any one of you recommend a place to swim (yes, I want to spend an hour or two with my head in chlorine fumes instead of wandering around the Ille de Paris.)
Parisian suburbs would be OK, also.
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Phil,
from recollection after fourteen years out of France (I left France in 1989), I can think of:
1) the swimming pool at Massy Palaiseau;
from the subway station Les Halles in the center of Paris, take the subway named 'RER' that stops at Massy Palaiseau;
there is a deep water 25 meter indoor pool, and every June until September, there is the outdoor 50 meter pool;
the swimming club that is lodged here, 'Entente Sportive de Massy', is a Division I French club (similar in level to the U.S. clubs preparing for the U.S. Swimming), building age group swimming up to Olympic swimming;
the coach of this club (Michel Courtois) took me from public swim into the club, when I was age 28 in September 1986;
this is the club that I joined for the first time in my life at age 28, after swimming in public since age 25;
I am being remembered in this club as 'Alex', short for my middle name Alexandru, since the French always had a problem with pronouncing my first name 'Ion';
this club made Olympic caliber swimmers over the years, like Sandra La Cour, Peterman, Sophie Kamoun, Christophe Bourdon, Thierry Laloum, and recently (2000 Olympics) Xavier Marchand;
it also made national caliber swimmers like Benoit Vassent, 'Big Maz' Mazzoleni, Philippe Chartier, Laurent Kabiche, Christophe Devedeaux, Lionel Mounier, Benoit Verdier, Vincent Nicholas, Sandrine Buisserez, Therese Mounier, Noelle Costa, Benjamin Scouarnec, Fabienne Le Gallic, Marc Demuliere, Laurence You-Know-The-Pretty-Blonde-whose-Last-Name-I-Forgot;
don't mind my nostalgia for remembering these memories...;
however, and this is the difficult part, the French didn't have lap swimming in public swim at the time when I was in France;
during public swim, it used to be a cacophony of public (mainly young hooligans diving and splashing in the water) without swimming lanes;
(hence me being a prodigious miracle according to two coaches -Courtois in France and Johnson (Olympic head coach now) in Canada-, to be able to raise from this environment without any age-group swimming, to an 20:34.29 in 1500 meter swam in a 25 meters pool, November 5, 1986;
after only two months of any competitive swimming;
I am being told to imagine what Ian Thorpe's times would be, without any striated tissue developed in Ian Thorpe's muscles;
note: the striated tissue in swimming, develops only during age-group swimming from ages 13 thru 19, but not at 28 when I started);
similarly there are the suburb clubs in Orsay (that produced the 1992 and 1996 Olympian Christophe Bordeaux) and Clichy;
all this brings the choices 2) and 3) below;
2) the indoor swimming pool that I vaguely remember as being at the subway station Kellerman in Paris (named 'Piscine Kellerman' if I remember correctly), was a 50 meter pool with swimming lanes that I was using to complement my club swimming with, in 1988;
3) the indoor swimming pool that I vaguely remember as being at the subway station Chatelet-Les Halles in Paris, was a 50 meter pool with swimming lanes that I was using to complement my club swimming with, in 1988;
unfortunately, the choices 2) and 3) were not perfect for swimming either, as the French didn't have lanes set by levels 'Slow', 'Medium' and 'Fast';
there were swimming lanes alright, but of mixed levels, so a swimmer better than the public had to tone down any ambitious workout, compromise with the reality of the place and do the minor parts of the workout in these public pools.
Phil,
from recollection after fourteen years out of France (I left France in 1989), I can think of:
1) the swimming pool at Massy Palaiseau;
from the subway station Les Halles in the center of Paris, take the subway named 'RER' that stops at Massy Palaiseau;
there is a deep water 25 meter indoor pool, and every June until September, there is the outdoor 50 meter pool;
the swimming club that is lodged here, 'Entente Sportive de Massy', is a Division I French club (similar in level to the U.S. clubs preparing for the U.S. Swimming), building age group swimming up to Olympic swimming;
the coach of this club (Michel Courtois) took me from public swim into the club, when I was age 28 in September 1986;
this is the club that I joined for the first time in my life at age 28, after swimming in public since age 25;
I am being remembered in this club as 'Alex', short for my middle name Alexandru, since the French always had a problem with pronouncing my first name 'Ion';
this club made Olympic caliber swimmers over the years, like Sandra La Cour, Peterman, Sophie Kamoun, Christophe Bourdon, Thierry Laloum, and recently (2000 Olympics) Xavier Marchand;
it also made national caliber swimmers like Benoit Vassent, 'Big Maz' Mazzoleni, Philippe Chartier, Laurent Kabiche, Christophe Devedeaux, Lionel Mounier, Benoit Verdier, Vincent Nicholas, Sandrine Buisserez, Therese Mounier, Noelle Costa, Benjamin Scouarnec, Fabienne Le Gallic, Marc Demuliere, Laurence You-Know-The-Pretty-Blonde-whose-Last-Name-I-Forgot;
don't mind my nostalgia for remembering these memories...;
however, and this is the difficult part, the French didn't have lap swimming in public swim at the time when I was in France;
during public swim, it used to be a cacophony of public (mainly young hooligans diving and splashing in the water) without swimming lanes;
(hence me being a prodigious miracle according to two coaches -Courtois in France and Johnson (Olympic head coach now) in Canada-, to be able to raise from this environment without any age-group swimming, to an 20:34.29 in 1500 meter swam in a 25 meters pool, November 5, 1986;
after only two months of any competitive swimming;
I am being told to imagine what Ian Thorpe's times would be, without any striated tissue developed in Ian Thorpe's muscles;
note: the striated tissue in swimming, develops only during age-group swimming from ages 13 thru 19, but not at 28 when I started);
similarly there are the suburb clubs in Orsay (that produced the 1992 and 1996 Olympian Christophe Bordeaux) and Clichy;
all this brings the choices 2) and 3) below;
2) the indoor swimming pool that I vaguely remember as being at the subway station Kellerman in Paris (named 'Piscine Kellerman' if I remember correctly), was a 50 meter pool with swimming lanes that I was using to complement my club swimming with, in 1988;
3) the indoor swimming pool that I vaguely remember as being at the subway station Chatelet-Les Halles in Paris, was a 50 meter pool with swimming lanes that I was using to complement my club swimming with, in 1988;
unfortunately, the choices 2) and 3) were not perfect for swimming either, as the French didn't have lanes set by levels 'Slow', 'Medium' and 'Fast';
there were swimming lanes alright, but of mixed levels, so a swimmer better than the public had to tone down any ambitious workout, compromise with the reality of the place and do the minor parts of the workout in these public pools.