I came form California and I'm overweight. In fact I didn't take up swimming until again until I spent 3 years in Arizona. Now, there was a country club pool I could have swam there but I didn't. In fact in my area in Arizona there are public pools or health club pools as just are ready as there was in California. I think that many people back east are probably are into other sports more like figure Skating, in fact a top figure skater name Sasha Cohen went back there to get better coaching and a better facility. Also, just because Long Island isn't into swimming as much as the Pacific region doesn't mean they don't workout. Also, I enjoy indoor pools, something that both California and Arizona lack. The weather is not always rosy in either states. There are sometimes bad rain storms in California in the January or February period and Monsoon conditions in Arizona in the summer. The New Yorkers are a little wiser to built the indoor pools, in Tempe we had rain problems and the 800 was delayed until the next day and the 200 IM relays got cancel. Now back east and in the mid-west where pools are mainly indoors they could have continue on with the meet.
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Originally posted by KenChertoff
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That's your own lifestyle and it proves nothing about anyone else.
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It proves that in the thread "Not everyone in shape in California", my first post of the thread -stating that for whoever wants to access fitness facilities, it's easier to do so in California than it is in the East-, is right in the case of San Diego and New York.
The same applies in my experience to Chicago in the mid-West, and Baltimore on the East coast, when I compare these two with San Diego.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
It proves that in the thread "Not everyone in shape in California", my first post of the thread -stating that for whoever wants to access fitness facilities, it's easier to do so in California than it is in the East-, is right in the case of San Diego and New York.
Well, yes, I suppose it would be difficult to access facilities in New York if you're not even in New York when you try.
It doesn't change the fact that, as I stated in my original post, there are more pools and other facilities in New York than when you were here or that there are several Masters teams in New York that have 9 or 10 practices a week (not the four practices you said were the norm). I can get to any one of four such programs, all in Manhattan, within a 15 minute subway ride.
And it doesn't change the fact that, unless you're trying to make some very atypical commute from out of state (New Milford is a pretty long way from New York), you shouldn't need to drive or park a car in Manhattan.
Originally posted by KenChertoff
Well, yes, I suppose it would be difficult to access facilities in New York if you're not even in New York when you try.
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When I was living in New Jersey and exercising in New York in 1998 and 1999, a blood test from Novemeber 1998, shows 'Tryglicerides' at 311.0, outside of the normal range of 40.0-199.
A blood test in April 2002, after one and a half years in San Diego, shows 'Tryglicerides' at 121.
The 121 number, advocates a lower body fat since I exercise in San Diego than when I did exercise in New York, even though in the two instances I wanted to emulate the same lifestyle.
An one hour swim at Asphalt Green in New York in January 1999, had me at 4,375 yards.
That's a little slower than a 1:20 pace per 100 yards.
An hour swim in San Diego in January 2001, had me at 4,580 yards.
That's faster than a 1:20 pace per 100 yards.
An hour swim in San Diego in January 2002, had me at 4,500 yards.
That's a pace of 1:20 per 100 yards.
By living the same lifesyle and exercising in both New York (Asphalt Green is among the maximum few best facilities that New York can offer for exercising) and San Diego, my fitness improved in San Diego from what it was in New York.
Originally posted by MetroSwim
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If expense was such an issue, why didn't you just drive up to the Ridgewood Y or down to Rutgers?
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That's naive ignorance again:
Ridgewood YMCA didn't have a quality Masters program.
Rutgers is more than 100 miles away from New Milford.
Originally posted by MetroSwim
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Oh, and as for "To Europeans like me, New York, New Jersey that's same garbage." If I wasn't such a nice guy, I'd make some comment about the Euro-trash who come here only to put down the freedoms and opportunity that they take advantage of here in the US, and how those guys get run out of town on a rail, tail between their legs.
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Somehow, big American companies tell me they don't find qualified candidates like me.
Hence my ability to choose where I work.
Originally posted by KenChertoff
Yes, I read that. So?
It says that from my place there are three Master programs within 25 minutes.
You wrote about 45 minutes by bus between Tenafly and Asphalt Green.
Got it?
To say more about it:
add more minutes, in between New Milford and Tenafly;
add the fact that buses don't run often early mornings like 6 a.m.;
add a high-tech profession making one doing overtime, so rather needing a car to compensate for unpredictable working hours.