Hi all,
First of all, if there's already a thread concerning this issue, I would like to say sorry for opening an already existing topic, but also would like to ask the moderators to link me the topic discussing this, before closing this thread.
The thing I wanna learn is being face-up underwater without having water in my nose but also without releasing a bubble, using breath control. (not nose clips, not my lips, not anything else, I wanna do this with breath control)
I have been practising this a lot now. Yet still can't manage to do it. All my acquaintances who ever tried or practiced it and can do it say that it is easy and they didn't need to practice it for too long. I can do it vertically, btw. So no, before you say, I am not instinctively sucking in water.
What I start to think is that what prevents me from being able to do this is that I have adenoids. Most of the time I can barely breath through one of my nostrils, which makes an unbalance between the 2 nostrils and makes it impossible to even the pressure at the same time in both of them, resulting in flooding my nose in any way. I also realized that I can either blow very little bubbles, or stop my breathing out completely, but between the two, to apply a pressure which is enough to keep water out but not enough to release a bubble, is just impossible for me. There is a gap in the breathing out I cannot acquire. Even if I do, one of my nose gets flooded because of the give unevenity.
What makes me very sad is that all of my acquaintances who ever tried or practised this, could master it easily. I have been suffering with it now for so long.
But my fear is that with adenoid I won't be able to master this. Anyone any experiences on this one?
Any tips, suggestions on how to practice?
Thanks
I'm not trying to sound like a pompous ass (maybe you're thinking "you're right, you aren't trying, you're succeeding!"). But I'm going to just be blunt.
Look, if you really want to do what you describe, this is not the forum to ask, and competitive swimming is not the environment to ask. There is a reason you don't see anyone doing that competitively. It isn't hard to do lying still. I'll admit I messed around a little this morning. It actually isn't impossible doing very slow and easy UDK's. But there's this problem you deal with when you are swimming competitively. Turbulence. You get significant and rapid pressure differences when fluids move over surfaces and shapes, and the nose is absolutely going to be a source for it (credentials - I used to do engine development for a living, and my focus was on the upper end of the engine, so airflow was a HUGE consideration). The faster you go, the more turbulent you get.
I'd almost be inclined to tell you to ask some synchronized swimmers. If anyone can do it, and would have a need, it would be them, right? Guess what.......they all wear clips.
The video posted is the equivalent of swim lessons for beginners. This iisn't the place for that. This isn't the place to learn lifeguarding strokes like the sidestroke, either. While Masters isn't exclusively for competition, it primarily is. And when you are talking UDK's on your back, you have pretty much ruled out lap swimmers.
1. This is a skill of nearly zero value to competition swimming
2. Not even the best competition swimmers in the world do this
3. It is actually fundamentally opposed to one of the core principals of competitive swimming - do NOT hold your breath
4. Breath control is about exhaling in a controlled manner
5. No one on this forum who has replied, possibly read, has indicated that this is something they can do, or one should do
6. People here think "badass" things to do are swimming really darn fast......which means using a lot of air and needing to breathe more often
7. If you go somewhere seeking advice, don't argue with people when you don't like the advice you are given
Either just let it go, or go find advice from a different kind of place that would be more appropriate. This REALLY isn't the place for it.
I'm not trying to sound like a pompous ass (maybe you're thinking "you're right, you aren't trying, you're succeeding!"). But I'm going to just be blunt.
Look, if you really want to do what you describe, this is not the forum to ask, and competitive swimming is not the environment to ask. There is a reason you don't see anyone doing that competitively. It isn't hard to do lying still. I'll admit I messed around a little this morning. It actually isn't impossible doing very slow and easy UDK's. But there's this problem you deal with when you are swimming competitively. Turbulence. You get significant and rapid pressure differences when fluids move over surfaces and shapes, and the nose is absolutely going to be a source for it (credentials - I used to do engine development for a living, and my focus was on the upper end of the engine, so airflow was a HUGE consideration). The faster you go, the more turbulent you get.
I'd almost be inclined to tell you to ask some synchronized swimmers. If anyone can do it, and would have a need, it would be them, right? Guess what.......they all wear clips.
The video posted is the equivalent of swim lessons for beginners. This iisn't the place for that. This isn't the place to learn lifeguarding strokes like the sidestroke, either. While Masters isn't exclusively for competition, it primarily is. And when you are talking UDK's on your back, you have pretty much ruled out lap swimmers.
1. This is a skill of nearly zero value to competition swimming
2. Not even the best competition swimmers in the world do this
3. It is actually fundamentally opposed to one of the core principals of competitive swimming - do NOT hold your breath
4. Breath control is about exhaling in a controlled manner
5. No one on this forum who has replied, possibly read, has indicated that this is something they can do, or one should do
6. People here think "badass" things to do are swimming really darn fast......which means using a lot of air and needing to breathe more often
7. If you go somewhere seeking advice, don't argue with people when you don't like the advice you are given
Either just let it go, or go find advice from a different kind of place that would be more appropriate. This REALLY isn't the place for it.
