LMSC vs. State Records

Looking for opinions here. As you know, the USMS community is divided in to LMSCs, not states. It is my impression that not all LMSCs maintain swimming records, but when they do, it is done for the LMSC, not by state. Does anyone maintain masters swimming records at the state level (when the state does not correspond to an LMSC? For example, Georgia is not only a state, but an LMSC.) I have been maintaining "New Jersey" state records, but I have learned that the "New Jersey" LMSC only covers North Jersey, and that South Jersey is part of the "Delaware Valley" LMSC, which includes eastern PA, and DE. If a swimmer from the Delaware Valley LMSC lives in NJ, should that be included in the "New Jersey" records? (particularly if the Delaware Valley LMSC does not maintain records). Should eligibility be based on residence, regardless of LMSC affiliation? And does anyone count YMCA Masters times, if the person is not registered as a USMS swimmer, but lives in the state?
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  • Former Member
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    You might check the USMS handbook, but I think every LMSC must keep records for consideration for USMS Top Tens. Our LMSC, Missouri Valley (MOVY), cover 2 states: all of Kansas and about half of Missouri. The current bylaws in MOVY allow any registered swimming that competes in a MOVY-sponsored meet to establish or break an LMSC record. MOVY registered swimmers that compete in any USMS or FINA sponsored events can also establish or break MOVY records, if they provide meet results that include the sanction number and the results. Therefore, you might need to contact each LMSC to see how they maintain records, who can establish/break them, and what documentation is required. Anthony Thompson, MOVY Fitness Chair
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  • Former Member
    Former Member
    You might check the USMS handbook, but I think every LMSC must keep records for consideration for USMS Top Tens. Our LMSC, Missouri Valley (MOVY), cover 2 states: all of Kansas and about half of Missouri. The current bylaws in MOVY allow any registered swimming that competes in a MOVY-sponsored meet to establish or break an LMSC record. MOVY registered swimmers that compete in any USMS or FINA sponsored events can also establish or break MOVY records, if they provide meet results that include the sanction number and the results. Therefore, you might need to contact each LMSC to see how they maintain records, who can establish/break them, and what documentation is required. Anthony Thompson, MOVY Fitness Chair
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