What is the average stroke count for a 25 yd free swim? Assuming no block start? I'm trying to count mine and was wondering where I should be aiming for.
No way. Here's a video from 2009 NCAAs. I looked at a few different swimmers and 11-13 seems more typical.
Knelson,
Probably exagerated, more like 9-10 would be the range for the super elite. I wanted to make the point of how some swimmers can really glide and still be fast. Check this swim out!
www.floswimming.org/.../7422-Webglia-M5FREEA297flv
Let's count strokes in breastroke shall we?
www.floswimming.org/.../7411-Webglia-M2BREASTB781flv
When I was in the pool yesterday for a quick workout I did take my stroke count, especially in warm-up. Freestyle, EZ swim, I was around 14-15 per 25 (pace :48-:52/50) at the beginning, at the end of the warm-up I was at 17-18 (pace: :38-:40/50). Backstroke was around 18-19 per length; deteriorating to 21-22 in the context of a mid-set 200 IM (pace = :50-:55/50).
I'm 6" (175-ish) w/ average wingspan. I know the stroke count could be better, but I being an "adult-onset" swimmer I have to be realistic and balance a lot of things to make incremental changes/improvements slowly over time. As an example of why stroke count isn't everything; about 1.5 years ago I would play swimming golf with myself (50 time + # strokes) and be happy that I could get down to the mid 70s by having taking 20 strokes (or even a little less) per 50 SCY and swimming around :55 (or a little slower). If I apply swim golf to my warm-up 50s from yesterday I come up with the same score, maybe even a little better, 73-74 = :38 + 35-36 strokes. That's a lot more strokes, but it's also a lot less time.
Always something to work on, that's part of the fun!
How do you do 6 strokes total (i assume for each 25) and still go low 40's? Man that is impressive. What are you best 50 times then? Man... I have a ton of work to do. I'm still sitting at 15-17 per 25 and doing around 40-45 in my sets. I must just have either really weak pulls or really weak kicks or a combo of both.
They're referring to breaststroke counts, not free... my *** is terrible, but I was counting 8-9 strokes yesterday (times in the mid to hi-:50s).
How do you do 6 strokes total (i assume for each 25) and still go low 40's? Man that is impressive. What are you best 50 times then? Man... I have a ton of work to do. I'm still sitting at 15-17 per 25 and doing around 40-45 in my sets. I must just have either really weak pulls or really weak kicks or a combo of both.
I think this refers to my post. It is Br, 6 strokes per 25, after pullout, about 22 seconds per 25. My 50 is probably about 32 right now, probably 11-12 strokes on the back 50 on a sprint. I am training for the 200 Br, and my goal is to get those 6-stroke repeats under 40.
I have been working on this (DPS) for a few years -- mostly by doing underwater breaststroke drills. It is all about learning to position your body to glide, and I am actually not all that good at it. I am built like a barge.
About 12 years ago a friend of mine,Bob Smith, challenged me to do this set he thought of, with him-5X50 breaststroke on the minute taking no more than 5 strokes after the breakout and keeping each 50 under 40 sec.Bob is a pure sprinter,6'4", who is great in all the strokes and always coming up with some set to work on and keep things interesting.Bob also has great pullouts so he started out with an advantage(I am 5'8".) I managed to do the set with him with in the parameters.I can't do it anymore,but I do regularly do 4X50 on the minute under 40 in 6 strokes.
I can't find a video, but I remember hearing that Kevin Cordes took six strokes per length (other than the first and last lengths) when he recently set a new American Record in the 200 ***.
Wow. That is awesome. How far are the pullouts?
What were his fastest times??? Man that is impressive for you especially at being only 5'8. You must have some massive kick and pull.
My pullouts were 30+ feet,Bob about 2-3 ft further.We were both low 30 for a 50 BR then at a taper meet.I do have a very good kick and am constantly working to improve my pull.My stroke count for each 50 of my best for age 200 LCM BR was 16,20,21,24.
How do you do 6 strokes total (i assume for each 25) and still go low 40's? Man that is impressive. What are you best 50 times then? Man... I have a ton of work to do. I'm still sitting at 15-17 per 25 and doing around 40-45 in my sets. I must just have either really weak pulls or really weak kicks or a combo of both.
