Phelps vs. Bolt?

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Listening to the Olympic commentators makes me cringe sometimes. Some of these cretins are convinced Usain Bolt is a greater Olympian than Phelps. No Way----NO FRIGGIN' WAY!!!! => Michael has won more total golds and total medals over a longer period of time He Owned the pool in Beijing. Bolt dominated two individual and one relay over two Olympiads. => Michael's career has lasted much longer than Bolt's. => Michael probably has the aerobic capacity of 3 Bolts put together. => Bolt is all fast-twitch fibers - honed to perfection for sure but I'd love to see him try to run a 400 or 800m.Michael is fast and slow twitch fibers.
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    Carl Lewis ??? Has the drug controversy ever been settled. The second of Carl Lewis' four consecutive Olympic long jump victories, in 1988 didn't become controversial for another fifteen years. In 2003, the U.S. Olympic Committee's former director for drug control, Dr. Wade Exum, revealed that Lewis had tested positive for small amounts of three banned stimulants at the 1988 Olympic Trials. The U.S. Olympic Committee neither banned Lewis nor released the test results publicly, ruling that his drug use was inadvertent and that the low levels discovered were not performance-enhancing. The levels of stimulants found in his test were less than 10 micrograms per milliliter.
  • Carl Lewis ??? Has the drug controversy ever been settled. The second of Carl Lewis' four consecutive Olympic long jump victories, in 1988 didn't become controversial for another fifteen years. In 2003, the U.S. Olympic Committee's former director for drug control, Dr. Wade Exum, revealed that Lewis had tested positive for small amounts of three banned stimulants at the 1988 Olympic Trials. The U.S. Olympic Committee neither banned Lewis nor released the test results publicly, ruling that his drug use was inadvertent and that the low levels discovered were not performance-enhancing. The levels of stimulants found in his test were less than 10 micrograms per milliliter. Yes, he got busted for not declaring his cold medications. They probably should have banned him from competing at Seoul. However, his absence from those Games would not change the fact that Ben Johnson tested positive for stanozolol, a potent steroid commonly used in horse racing.
  • One more strike against Phelps in the news: sports.yahoo.com/.../michael-phelps-could-trouble-louis-vuitton-photos-141804124--oly.html Phelps probably didn't have anything to do with the leak of these photos. Don't know how this reflects on him poorly.
  • Don't know how this reflects on him poorly. It's doesn't. If anything it just highlights a ridiculous rule.
  • Rules are rules ridiculous or not. I disagree. This is simply a money grab by the IOC. You see these athletes everywhere in ads during the Olympics. Apparently that's OK as long as they are Olympic sponsors. How is that fair? And, for the record, I don't think Michael should have that LV bag so close to the tub. What's the retail price on it? A couple grand or so? :)
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    Rules are rules ridiculous or not.
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    They should have taken my picture when I fell asleep in a bathtub in London after a party at Guild Hall London in 1958. I was bagged no price ticket attached..
  • And that's one of his strength. He should not change anything in that attitude. Sleeping is one important key during important meets. When you're absolutely convinced you're God on earth, you do sleep as if it was just a normal day. Another angle under which it's fun to compare these two giants is about their contribution, what they brought to their sport. And I think in this regard they're head to head. Bolt is clearly demonstrating that you can have success over 100m without growing mega muscle masses. I can not wait to see if the first one that will beat him over 100m will have chosen to take this path. Let's wait and see. Will it take yet another 100/200 specialist to beat him? I can not recall anyone prior Phelps, swimming the fly like he taught us it can (or should?) be swam. His particular arm entry (shoulder then upper arm then forearm then hand), produces such a low splash level, I think it's still unmatched today. His breathing mechanics could (or should?) also be considered as *tha* way to go; which brought me to question systematic breathing patterns (every 2 stroke) displayed by a few swimmers over the 200m in London 2012. So many flyers use Phelps's breathing pattern. Chad Lo Clos saw Phelps's breathing pattern in Athens. In London, it was used to beat Phelps. I used Phelps's butterfly breathing for a while but, for me, I felt that I was getting too vertical at the end of a 200 fly. I went back to breathing 2 up, 1 down and 3 up, 1 down on the fly leg of the 400 IM. If I can remember properly, I think that everyone in the 200 fly Olympic final was breathing every stroke.
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    I bet bolt regards himself as the greatest entity in the universe And that's one of his strength. He should not change anything in that attitude. Sleeping is one important key during important meets. When you're absolutely convinced you're God on earth, you do sleep as if it was just a normal day. Another angle under which it's fun to compare these two giants is about their contribution, what they brought to their sport. And I think in this regard they're head to head. Bolt is clearly demonstrating that you can have success over 100m without growing mega muscle masses. I can not wait to see if the first one that will beat him over 100m will have chosen to take this path. Let's wait and see. Will it take yet another 100/200 specialist to beat him? I can not recall anyone prior Phelps, swimming the fly like he taught us it can (or should?) be swam. His particular arm entry (shoulder then upper arm then forearm then hand), produces such a low splash level, I think it's still unmatched today. His breathing mechanics could (or should?) also be considered as *tha* way to go; which brought me to question systematic breathing patterns (every 2 stroke) displayed by a few swimmers over the 200m in London 2012. Anyway, to the best of my knowledge, Phelps got beaten over the 200m Fly by a 5'10 young rooster that basically showed very similar characteristics (systematic breathing every stroke, clean arm entry though not as clean as Phelps).