Help with freestyle stroke

So should I always swim with a rotary arm stroke throughout the whole workout or should I do the easier ones FQS and only use the rotary pattern when doing faster stuffs ????I am curious too. What style do super fast sprinters use during recovery swims or aerobic workouts, 2 beat kicking? I do recall a Nystrand video clip of 50M easy. Even though it was 30 seconds or less, he 2 beat kicked, used "FQS", and bilateral pattern

@ Debugger : the size of the pool is actually 25.13 meter. I am sorry to say this but what the hell are you saying man............ There are Top sprint guys who can make 25 meters in this speed in less then 10 strokes for sure. You can find it yourself even in the internet. Anyway you are right about me being too far away from the camera. I will try to make another video. Thanks for the reply anyway. @ __steve__ : yes that is what I want to know about. thanx. Let's take a look at Alexander Popov (may I consider him a Top sprint guy?) from 0:23 where you can see clearly that he does 12 strokes 3. Приложение Freestyle .mp4 - YouTube

@ Debugger : sorry dude you are totally missing the point. Aleksandre popov stroke tempo in that video is lot faster then mine. from what I measured his tempo in that 25 meter was 1.3-1.4 while mine was a lot slower of 1.9 or more and also my glide was longer then his. Anyways how about this one : www.floswimming.org/.../183883-the-sprint-free-stroke You will see cesar cielo filho do a 25 meters in some point in this clip with just 7 strokes and yes I can also do that by slowing down my tempo a bit more.I know for certain that I am missing the point. So are you trying to swim like the elites do when they are drilling, not racing? All you've stated is that you want to swim like Mr X, Mr. Y and Mr. Z. Sounds like you want to swim perfectly at less than race pace. This is essentially what Popov did in his training and then ramped up the stroke rate. Look at Popov's stroke- it has the same mechanics if you look at the first clip (slow) and the second clip (maybe 100 pace). With him at least, stroke rate is meaningless. But if stroke rate is so important to you in mimicking the elites, here are some stats from the 2008 Olympic games (Salo, 2008): 50m free stroke rate for top 8: 1.03sec/cycle 100m free stroke rate for top 8: 1.17sec/cycle 200m free stroke rate for top 8: 1.29sec/cycle 1500m free stroke rate for top 8: 1.46sec/cycle Again, I'm not sure if I'm understanding what your question is, so maybe some clarification is nessecary. Good luck.

@ Debugger : the size of the pool is actually 25.13 meter. I am sorry to say this but what the hell are you saying man............ There are Top sprint guys who can make 25 meters in this speed in less then 10 strokes for sure. You can find it yourself even in the internet. Anyway you are right about me being too far away from the camera. I will try to make another video. Thanks for the reply anyway. @ __steve__ : yes that is what I want to know about. thanx.

@ Debugger : sorry dude you are totally missing the point. Aleksandre popov stroke tempo in that video is lot faster then mine. from what I measured his tempo in that 25 meter was 1.3-1.4 while mine was a lot slower of 1.9 or more and also my glide was longer then his. Anyways how about this one : www.floswimming.org/.../183883-the-sprint-free-stroke You will see cesar cielo filho do a 25 meters in some point in this clip with just 7 strokes and yes I can also do that by slowing down my tempo a bit more.

@ speedo : Look at my first and second post and you should be able to find what my questions are. I am here to have some answers to those questions not to argue about the size of the pool I swim in. I hope you will give me some suggestions and will not start arguing with me about the pool size. THANX in advance...................................

He and also other coaches always told me that 50 FR is not a real race and it was very stupid for me to do it only. Whether the 50 is or isn't a real event, the truth remains, when the sprinting events start and the fast seeds are up it definately starts getting spectacular to watch. geo 123: Man, thanks for the popov vid link! I never seen that one. After watching the flowswimming with Cielio it is quite obvious the sprint free stroke has evolved much

guys another question here.......... What kind of training is really required to swim very fast in the 50 FR ? Does one have to do 10k or more a day at least or is it something else ? Is it stupid to swim just the 50 free and nothing else ??? Should I train for the 100 Fr ?????? Man, I know that some middle distance and stayers swim 10k IMO sprinters who do 50 and 100 don't need that much. Even 3k a day can be sufficient to train aerobic capacity for 100m. Sad to hear that coach was telling that :-( Keep on looking for different one. You may try this to increase your aerobic capacity - ruthkazez.com/.../ZeroTo1mile.html I'm sure that adding 100m can improve your 50 as well.

@ debugger : First of all I am sorry if I had been rude before. Anyway I also think 24.6 is not too bad. Couple of months ago I tried to swim with a team. The coach was constantly criticising me for my aerobic capacity. He just talked about my negative sides in swimming in a very negative way. It discouraged me. He and also other coaches always told me that 50 FR is not a real race and it was very stupid for me to do it only. They wanted me to do the 100 and other distances. I couldn't stand those things.There is not really any problem working on my aerobic capacity but when I used to work on it with that team I was constantly falling a loooooooot behind them and it was very discouraging. The people that I trained with were in a far better aerobic condition then me so it was THE problem. But hey thanx for the encouragement. @speedo : The most important thing that I found in swimming is that one has to be very veryyyyy consistent in training to keep on improving and I definitely lack consistency. I wish I had some supportive guys around to help me go to where I want to go. I definitely Believe that I can be a lot faster than this. Thank you for your tips. @orca1946 : you know I believe swimming 24.5- 25.5 is not very difficult but after that things get a lot complicated. One has to work consistently under a coach to keep on improving. Thank you for the response. @taruky : I think you are right. The stroke in the video and the stroke that I use in sprints are completely different. Thank you for your appriciation but I am yet to find a coach that is suitable for me and about the pool......... I don't know if anybody else here swim in this because it was a hotel pool. Rtodd : Thank you for your nice words and tips. I tried to get on a team but that didn't work out well.

guys another question here.......... What kind of training is really required to swim very fast in the 50 FR ? Does one have to do 10k or more a day at least or is it something else ? Is it stupid to swim just the 50 free and nothing else ??? Should I train for the 100 Fr ??????