distance swimmers shorted

Chris, while I "get" this and understand the pain and significant negotiations required to make a 4 day meet, in effect, EVERY single year and EVERY single Nationals, ONLY the distance swimmers are asked to commit to a 4 day meet. That hardly seems fair. A better solution would be to either alternate meet schedules so that some years the distance events were on, say, Friday, OR put forth a full 4 day schedule with the 1650 at the end of the 1st (or 4th) day and the 1000 at the end of the 4th (or 1st) day. From Page 31: (3) Full days on the schedule may be interchanged so that the 400/500 freestyle and the 1500/1650 freestyle shall not be swum on consecutive days.

The meet does not put the 50 - 100 - 200 on the same day!!!

The meet does not put the 50 - 100 - 200 on the same day!!! EXACTLY! Try that sometime and see what happens (that would be kinda funny actually)

I'm swimming at Canadian Nationals this weekend. There are 1200 swimmers entered in the meet. Not only can you swim both the 800 and 1500 free, the first and last days of the meet respectively, you can swim 8 events over the 4 day meet. There are two 25 meter pools and very reasonable timeline. Let's find a way to offer both events for qualified distance swimmers. Tighten the qualifying standards. It is our national championship. Why should everyone feel entitled to swim the 800/1000 or the 1500/1650 at this meet. There are plenty of other meets that offer these events.

... you can't even begin to compare Y nats to USMS nats. i think a closer comparison would be Y nats to new england's LMSC champs. and they swim their distance events on a completely different weekend than the rest of the meet. What do you mean they have to swim their distance events on a separate weekend? That is wholly unfair to the distance swimmers. You wouldn't make a sprinter swim the 50 on one weekend and the 100 a week later...:afraid:

Some of them might actually enjoy doing the 50 and 100 that way. Most would still complain about inadequate rest between races.

What do you mean they have to swim their distance events on a separate weekend? That is wholly unfair to the distance swimmers. You wouldn't make a sprinter swim the 50 on one weekend and the 100 a week later...:afraid: Some of them might actually enjoy doing the 50 and 100 that way.

Most would still complain about inadequate rest between races. Most complain about the lack of rest between the 1st 25 and 2nd 25 of the 50

The Canadian Masters Nationals Schedule make it feasible for the distance swimmers do the 800 and 1500 over a 4 day period. Yes, there are less swimmers than the American version. Sprinters don't have to choice betwee the 50 and 100 free. Thurs 1000 or 1650/1500 or 800 half of Friday's events Friday 1000 or 1650/1500 or 800 half of Friday's normal events Just a suggestion! I'm swimming at Canadian Nationals this weekend. There are 1200 swimmers entered in the meet. Not only can you swim both the 800 and 1500 free, the first and last days of the meet respectively, you can swim 8 events over the 4 day meet. There are two 25 meter pools and very reasonable timeline. Let's find a way to offer both events for qualified distance swimmers. Tighten the qualifying standards. It is our national championship. Why should everyone feel entitled to swim the 800/1000 or the 1500/1650 at this meet. There are plenty of other meets that offer these events. Yes, I understand Canadian Nationals offers the option to swim both distance events in a 4 day format. It was just said above that Canadian Nationals has 1200 swimmers and two courses. Our Spring Nationals has two courses but significantly more swimmers (almost 2000 in Atlanta, over 1800 in Mesa). That equates to us requiring at least a third course to have the same ratio (1200+ for 2 courses; 1800+ for 3 courses; 2400 for 4 courses, etc.). Even with only 632 swimmers last summer, our Summer Nationals average is 1000 for the past 10+ years. And we only have one course for most Long Course nationals. Like I said earlier, if we had a third course for Short Course or a second course for Long Course, we could offer the option to do both distance events in a 4 day schedule (or a 5 day schedule with just 2 courses for SC and 1 course for LC). That is why we cannot use Canadian Nationals as an example that it can be done. Jeff

Jeff, Why can swimmers at Y masters nationals swim both distance events on the same day without having to get special permission to do so? :frustrated: How many swimmers do they have in their meet? I went once (2009) and I think they had maybe 500 swimmers.