I am having a tough time about whether a Speedo Endurance jammers will be legal at Nats. It does not show up on any list that I have found as legal. Who will I need to contact to find out? Most of the legal FINA approved suits stop at size 34 or maybe 36. I need a 38 , what am I to do? I know lose more LBS, but really where do I look for a size 38 Legal jammer ?
Legal suits " FOR" S C Nats - sorry I did not proof it fast enough.
Has anyone raced in their Yingfa suit, yet? Love to hear about it. I'm tempted to just get a pretty, lycra Speedo, but those Yingfas are the same price.My guy's viewpoint is that these are excellent suits; I find it only marginally (very marginally) different than my TYR Tracer Light. I'll still be racing in a Tracer Light at Nationals, because they're only $100, but I'm using my Yingfa in all other meets. It's a solid suit and I think way better than any of the 'standard' / non-tech lycra suits I've tried.
YMMV and it might be different for women vs. men
Just bought a Yingfa. The price is sweet. I went by the size chart and got an xl. Hope that's right -- my waist is 32, and my Aquablade is a 32.
I've been using my Yingfa suit like crazy in all my meets. my waist is 32 I guess for jeans, I use a 30 for my suits though... My Yingfa is a Large size, and seems to fit pretty good. I may try a Medium next time since they're only $33. I've had very good results with the suit so far. I'm happy, especially since I don't have the kind of $$$ to spend on the "big name" suits. I'd rather race in a "grab bag" suit for $10 than spend $150+ for something that may wear out just the same. :)
I've been using my Yingfa suit like crazy in all my meets. my waist is 32 I guess for jeans, I use a 30 for my suits though... My Yingfa is a Large size, and seems to fit pretty good. I may try a Medium next time since they're only $33. I've had very good results with the suit so far. I'm happy, especially since I don't have the kind of $$$ to spend on the "big name" suits. I'd rather race in a "grab bag" suit for $10 than spend $150+ for something that may wear out just the same. :)
I can't wait to try it out. Maybe it will become the forum 'team' suit. :)
Here's what's legal:
They have the Blue & White FINA approved circle beside the suits
Think I'm going to wear a B70 NEROTX
Ande
List of FINA Approved swimsuits
Valid for the period from 01 January 2011 to 31 December 2011
(the List of FINA Approved swimsuits for 2012 will be published before December 31, 2011).
USMS RULES
102.14 Swimwear for Pool Competition
102.14.1 Design—The swimsuits worn for competition shall be nontransparent and
conform to the current concept of the appropriate. The referee shall have
authority to bar offenders from competition until they comply with this
rule.
A Swimwear shall include only a swimsuit, cap and goggles (a nose clip
and ear plugs are allowed). Armbands or legbands shall not be regarded
as parts of the swimsuit and are not allowed.
B In swimming competitions, the competitor must wear only one swimsuit
in one or two pieces. All swimsuits shall be made from textile materials.
For men, the swimsuit shall not extend above the navel nor below the
knees, and for women, shall not cover the neck, extend past the shoulder
nor extend below the knees.
C Only swimsuits complying with FINA swimsuit specifications may be
worn in any USMS sanctioned or recognized competition.
D Exemptions to the foregoing restrictions may be granted to a swimmer,
on a case by case basis, by the chair of the Rules Committee or designee.
Exemptions will be granted only for conflicts due to the swimmer’s
verified religious beliefs or verified medical conditions.
(1) Procedures for applying for an exemption will be established by
the Rules Committee and posted on the U.S. Masters Swimming
website.
(2) No exemption to these restrictions will be granted for a swimsuit
that will give the swimmer a competitive advantage.
(3) The decision of the Rules Committee chair may be appealed only
to the entire Rules Committee, whose decision shall be final and
binding on all parties.
E No swimmer is permitted to wear or use any device or substance to
enhance speed, pace, buoyancy or endurance during a race (such as
webbed gloves, flippers, fins, etc.). Goggles may be worn, and rubdown
oil applied if not considered excessive by the referee. Any kind of tape
on the body is not permitted unless approved by the referee.
FINA List of Approved Suits for 2010
USA Swimming Rules
102.8 SWIMWEAR
.1 Design
A Swimwear shall include only a swimsuit, cap, and goggles. Armbands or leg bands
shall not be regarded as parts of the swimsuit and are not allowed.
B In swimming competitions, the swimmer must wear only one swimsuit in one or two
pieces, except as provided in 205.10.1. All swimsuits shall be made from textile materials.
For men, the swimsuit shall not extend above the navel nor below the knees, and for women, shall not cover the neck, extend past the shoulder, nor extend below the knee (see 701.4.4 for open water exception).
(1) Exemptions to the foregoing restriction may be granted to a swimmer, on a case
by case basis, by the Chair of the Rules & Regulations Committee, or his/her designee.
Exemptions will be granted only for conflicts due to the swimmer’s verified
religious beliefs or verified medical conditions.
(2) Procedures for applying for an exemption will be established by the Rules & Regulations
Committee and posted on the USA Swimming website.
(3) No exemption to this restriction will be granted for a swimsuit that will give the
swimmer a competitive advantage.
(4) The decision of the Rules Chair may be appealed only to the entire Rules & Regulations
Committee, whose decision shall be final and binding on all parties.
C Only swimsuits complying with FINA swimsuit specifications may be worn in any USA
Swimming sanctioned or approved competition.
D Swimsuits worn for competition must be non-transparent and conform to the current
concept of the appropriate.
E No swimmer is permitted to wear or use any device, substance or swimsuit to help his/
her speed, pace, buoyancy or endurance during a race (such as webbed gloves, flippers,
fins, etc.). Goggles may be worn, and rubdown oil applied if not considered
excessive by the Referee. Any kind of tape on the body is not permitted unless
approved by the Referee.
F The Referee shall have authority to bar offenders from the competition until they comply
with the rule.
.2 Insignia — Swimmers may wear the insignia and/or name of the club or organization they
represent or of which they are a member or the insignia of their FINA National Federation or
Organizing Committees for Olympic, World, Continental or Regional Championships, except
as otherwise provided in 202.6.3 for international competition and in FINA rules GR5 and
GR6. Swimmers shall not be allowed to wear the insignia and/or name of any club or organization
which they are not entitled to represent in open competition, if such action is objectionable
to that club or organization.
.3 Advertising (effective 10-01-10)
A Advertising means the normal display of the name, designation, trademark, logo, or any
other distinctive sign of the manufacturer of the item or any other advertiser permitted
in accordance with this rule. FINA labeling and the USA Swimming logo or club logo
shall not be considered as advertisements. Logos of the swimwear manufacturer shall
be considered as advertising and are included in the limits described in (1) through (3)
below. In the competition venue or complex of all events conducted by and under the
control of USA Swimming or any LSC or division thereof, advertising appearing on
swimwear is allowed as follows:
(1) Swimsuits — A total of two separate advertising logos of a maximum size of 20
square centimeters (3.1 sq. in.) each, as measured as applied, shall be permitted.
(2) Caps — A total of two separate advertising logos of a maximum size of 20 square
centimeters (3.1 sq. in.) each, as measured as applied, shall be permitted. A club
logo is not considered as advertising and is not subject to the size limitations.
(3) Goggles — A total of two separate advertising logos of a maximum size of 6
square centimeters (.9 sq. in.) each, as measured as applied, shall be permitted,
but only on the spectacle frame or band.
B Body advertising in the form of temporary tattoos or other embellishments is not
allowed.
C Advertising for the following shall not be allowed:
(1) Products involving tobacco, alcohol or pharmaceuticals containing substances
banned under IOC or FINA rules;
(2) Political statements; and
(3) Any products or services that would be counter to the values of the sport or bring
disrepute to USA Swimming.
D Swimmers in violation of the above provisions may be barred from the competition venue
until they comply. However, any swimmer who competes in an event wearing swimwear
in violation of these advertising provisions shall not be subject to disqualification.
Just bought a Yingfa. The price is sweet. I went by the size chart and got an xl. Hope that's right -- my waist is 32, and my Aquablade is a 32.
I originally got an XL Yingfa (my waist 33/34) and, while I liked, felt it had a little extra room so I got the large and that was a tighter fit.
I HIGHLY recommend the Yingfa for comfort and price. Because the suits are: XS, S, M, L, and XL they are tough at first to size. I think I ended up with a medium and I'm about 25lbs overweight.
George has all the answers if you ask the right questions.
I also compared the Yingfa to the B70 and my estimate was that the Yingfa was just a hair slower than the B70.
:2cents:
Good luck :cheerleader:
I originally got an XL Yingfa (my waist 33/34) and, while I liked, felt it had a little extra room so I got the large and that was a tighter fit.
I just tried it on and it fits great -- a little lower in the back than my other suits, but not too low. :applaud: I'll test drive it Monday.