first of all, congrats to the meet directors and all the volunteers on a job well done. so organized and efficient!! very impressive. the only thing i wish someone could explain to me is why the usms champ. committee changed the team scoring from large, medium and small team to clumping everyone in the same category. seems extremely unfair to have what i call "real teams" competing against state mega teams. there is no possibility for "real teams" to ever come close to competing against them. if you are going to give team awards at the end of the meet, is there any way you can do it fairly? our team is extremely proud to have gotten as many team members as we did to go to natls. (most of them for the first time), but unfortunately they were very disillusioned (as was i) with the idea that we would be competing against state teams. as one of the coaches i didn't have an explanation. even though we were very proud of our 7th place finish in men's division, and our 12th place in combined, we were only one of a few "real teams" in the top ten. would appreciate responses. maybe even someone from the champ.committee could explain how they felt this scoring system would be more fair to the majority of swimmers. then i can pass it along to my teammates.. i don't want them to be so disillusioned that they lose interest in attending any future natls. thanks
Alrighty...I agree with Karen Duggan 100%! Walnnut Creek is an extended family. The Olympic Club is an extended family. We train together and race together. We encourage "everyone" to participate and have adopted members along the way to join us for social activities..."especially at nationals"...anyone want to chime in hear?...Mark G., Randy N., Jill G., Laura W., etc., etc., ect.
At the end of the day, it is NOT THE TIME YOU DID...IT IS THE TIME YOU HAD!!!
Scott:groovy:
Scott...with all due respect I would challenge you on the "closeness" if you will of what you describe at WCM and TOC and that of CMS. Although I no longer live in CO I was part of that team for many years and feel VERY proud of what we accomplished at meets, the times we organized national team training sessions, how hard we partied afterwards, how we stay in touch regardless of distance and what a great job we did of pulling people out of the woodwork to be part of the "team".
I see a lot of you writing about how great it is to be part of a workout group...Karen, I've swam with WCM and yes Kerry does an outstanding job and you have wonderful people there...but I would argue a vast majority of that group does not share the common interest of competition that our "regional" club at CMS (and AZ will soon) that kept us all sharing daily emails, phone calls, dinners on weekends, occasional workouts, etc.
Unless you have lived as part of a regional team I would challenge you to step back from the "holier than thou" attitude that some of you are fostering about being a "real team" because you "train" together...sorry but sharing a pool doesn't bring you closer...sharing a goal and working towards it as a group no matter what the geographical differences is far more of a "glue" than pool time....
If you don't believe me it PM me and I'll share some of the daily communication that is going on right now between some of us all over the country rallying folks to get ready for Austin!
Alrighty...I agree with Karen Duggan 100%! Walnnut Creek is an extended family. The Olympic Club is an extended family. We train together and race together. We encourage "everyone" to participate and have adopted members along the way to join us for social activities..."especially at nationals"...anyone want to chime in hear?...Mark G., Randy N., Jill G., Laura W., etc., etc., ect.
At the end of the day, it is NOT THE TIME YOU DID...IT IS THE TIME YOU HAD!!!
Scott:groovy:
Scott...with all due respect I would challenge you on the "closeness" if you will of what you describe at WCM and TOC and that of CMS. Although I no longer live in CO I was part of that team for many years and feel VERY proud of what we accomplished at meets, the times we organized national team training sessions, how hard we partied afterwards, how we stay in touch regardless of distance and what a great job we did of pulling people out of the woodwork to be part of the "team".
I see a lot of you writing about how great it is to be part of a workout group...Karen, I've swam with WCM and yes Kerry does an outstanding job and you have wonderful people there...but I would argue a vast majority of that group does not share the common interest of competition that our "regional" club at CMS (and AZ will soon) that kept us all sharing daily emails, phone calls, dinners on weekends, occasional workouts, etc.
Unless you have lived as part of a regional team I would challenge you to step back from the "holier than thou" attitude that some of you are fostering about being a "real team" because you "train" together...sorry but sharing a pool doesn't bring you closer...sharing a goal and working towards it as a group no matter what the geographical differences is far more of a "glue" than pool time....
If you don't believe me it PM me and I'll share some of the daily communication that is going on right now between some of us all over the country rallying folks to get ready for Austin!
