first of all, congrats to the meet directors and all the volunteers on a job well done. so organized and efficient!! very impressive. the only thing i wish someone could explain to me is why the usms champ. committee changed the team scoring from large, medium and small team to clumping everyone in the same category. seems extremely unfair to have what i call "real teams" competing against state mega teams. there is no possibility for "real teams" to ever come close to competing against them. if you are going to give team awards at the end of the meet, is there any way you can do it fairly? our team is extremely proud to have gotten as many team members as we did to go to natls. (most of them for the first time), but unfortunately they were very disillusioned (as was i) with the idea that we would be competing against state teams. as one of the coaches i didn't have an explanation. even though we were very proud of our 7th place finish in men's division, and our 12th place in combined, we were only one of a few "real teams" in the top ten. would appreciate responses. maybe even someone from the champ.committee could explain how they felt this scoring system would be more fair to the majority of swimmers. then i can pass it along to my teammates.. i don't want them to be so disillusioned that they lose interest in attending any future natls. thanks
Yes, the nuclear and extended family analogy is great! And Carolyn sums up where we currently stand on this topic very well.
So, how do you define a regional team and a club team?
I have a question - in how many LMSCs do they list both a workout group and a team on their registration card? It almost seems like that would be too easy.
Also, is that methon of definition under inclusive? I'm sure it wouldn't be over inclusive. And specifically, how does it work in Florida for Gold Coast (is that the team with various "workout groups"?)
It would be nice to keep it simple, but we also need to make sure that any "regional" teams WITHIN an LMSC (in addition to those teams that ARE the entire LMSC) are included in the regional team category. I know there was language in one proposal that spoke of "if a team was more the 45% of the LMSC..." That honestly confused me a bit, but I'm sure whoever wrote it had good reason. Can someone explain to me the dynamics of this and offer different definitions?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, the nuclear and extended family analogy is great! And Carolyn sums up where we currently stand on this topic very well.
So, how do you define a regional team and a club team?
I have a question - in how many LMSCs do they list both a workout group and a team on their registration card? It almost seems like that would be too easy.
Also, is that methon of definition under inclusive? I'm sure it wouldn't be over inclusive. And specifically, how does it work in Florida for Gold Coast (is that the team with various "workout groups"?)
It would be nice to keep it simple, but we also need to make sure that any "regional" teams WITHIN an LMSC (in addition to those teams that ARE the entire LMSC) are included in the regional team category. I know there was language in one proposal that spoke of "if a team was more the 45% of the LMSC..." That honestly confused me a bit, but I'm sure whoever wrote it had good reason. Can someone explain to me the dynamics of this and offer different definitions?
Thanks in advance.
