I was hoping we could discuss this to possibly make things easier for the clubs hosting postal meets.
I noticed that US Swimming doesn't have a postal meet anymore, but rather an internet meet. You email your results to the meet host in Hy-Tek format.
I suspect that at least some of the postal meet hosts are already using Hy Tek to put the results together. So they receive our results, and then type them in in hy tek format.
It is my understanding that the hy tek format is an open standard and I seem to remember discussion some time ago that a few members had made utilities that would make output files in hy tek format. Also, hy tek has team manager lite for free download and I believe it was made for purposes very much like this one. But either way we have options.
So in that regard I'd like to see us go to an internet meet model. Where the local coach if he chooses, can email the results into the host club. since we now have online sign up, perhaps it could go together. Do the online sign up and attach your file with it. If you want to smail it in the old way, you'd still be able to do so.
Thought I'd put it out there.
Oh, I still say that online USMS registration is an opportunity we are missing big time. I can register for US Cycling Federaton, USA Triathlon and Road Runners Club of America all online. In the case of USA T and USCF, the liability coverage is the same, if electronic signatures fly for that, seems like it would fly for USMS.
Kevin
Couple of points:
(1) The Hy-Tek native formats are not open formats, technically. The USA Swimming SDIF format is an open published format. The Hy-Tek CL2 format is a close derivative of SDIF, but it is not an open standard -- they will not publish the format, though I've asked them to many times. The Hy-Tek HYV format is also officially a closed format. (It's not rocket science to figure out what the format is -- but it's not officially an open format.)
(2) USMS is missing the boat _big_ time without adopting an electronic signatures procedure. For USMS nationals, you still need to sign a piece of paper somewhere when you show up as a release waiver. For the One Hour Swim, you still need to sign your sheet to send it in. We could make life so much easier if we adopted electronic signatures.
I know many states have pretty good electronic signature laws in place. When I asked about this earlier, I was told that the USMS insurance coverage didn't like the electronic signatures. I wish people would start to clammor for this at the convention.
-Rick
Couple of points:
(1) The Hy-Tek native formats are not open formats, technically. The USA Swimming SDIF format is an open published format. The Hy-Tek CL2 format is a close derivative of SDIF, but it is not an open standard -- they will not publish the format, though I've asked them to many times. The Hy-Tek HYV format is also officially a closed format. (It's not rocket science to figure out what the format is -- but it's not officially an open format.)
(2) USMS is missing the boat _big_ time without adopting an electronic signatures procedure. For USMS nationals, you still need to sign a piece of paper somewhere when you show up as a release waiver. For the One Hour Swim, you still need to sign your sheet to send it in. We could make life so much easier if we adopted electronic signatures.
I know many states have pretty good electronic signature laws in place. When I asked about this earlier, I was told that the USMS insurance coverage didn't like the electronic signatures. I wish people would start to clammor for this at the convention.
-Rick
